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Re: How to Make a Clean Hole with 1 1/8" Dill Bit?

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Also keep in mind we're just using a normal cheapo drill press and none of that fancy CNC machine stuff (which I wish we had). Thanks!
In that situation, I'd use an appropriately-sized hole saw, lube, and sufficient patience. (Heating can be a problem when trying to precision-drill holes on a less-than-stellar drill press. Consider taking more time than you want to!)
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Re: How to Make a Clean Hole with 1 1/8" Dill Bit?

We have used step drills, such as the Irwin Unibit. Grainger has an assortment of them, with some going up to 1-1/8" and larger. Harbor Freight has a set for cheap, but they don't last and are a bit dull.


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Re: How to Make a Clean Hole with 1 1/8" Dill Bit?

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We have used step drills, such as the Irwin Unibit. Grainger has an assortment of them, with some going up to 1-1/8" and larger. Harbor Freight has a set for cheap, but they don't last and are a bit dull.


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Yes, I absolutely meant a step drill and not a hole saw. Hole saws are notorious for their inaccuracy. Step drills (with a properly punched, piloted hole) are much better, and we've used them for bearings for years.
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Yes, I absolutely meant a step drill and not a hole saw. Hole saws are notorious for their inaccuracy. Step drills (with a properly punched, piloted hole) are much better, and we've used them for bearings for years.
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Re: How to Make a Clean Hole with 1 1/8" Dill Bit?

Use a step bit to get up to 1 inch or so, finish it off with the 1-1/8'' bit.

You can, of course, use the step bit for the whole thing but I've always found they don't leave the nicest finish on the hole (lots of burrs, and if you go too far you end up widening one end).

Edit: As for general drilling practice, you should always have a bottle of cutting oil handy when you're using a drill press. It almost always gives you better results. It's not always necessary on aluminum (I tend to skip it for the 1/4'' or 3/16'' holes we drill loads of to save time), but it's an absolute must for getting good results on steel and it really does help for larger holes on aluminum as well. I went a long period of time not knowing this, to my detriment.
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Re: How to Make a Clean Hole with 1 1/8" Dill Bit?

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Start by using a center punch to accurately place the center of the hole. Then drill through with a bit like 1/8". Then use the 1 1/8" bit. Remember to properly align the workpiece under the drill press each time. Cutting oil will help too.
Good advice, except for the part about going from 1/8" to 1-1/8" directly. You absolutely need to work your way up to 1.125 as others have noted. PM me if you want to know why.

You cannot hand-hold a drill to make such a hole. This is dangerous. A drill press is the only safe way to make that hole with a drill bit. Your jagged hole is from the human inability to keep the drill perfectly centered on the pilot hole. As the bit bounces off the walls of the hole, you get chunks taken out instead of slivers.
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You cannot hand-hold a drill to make such a hole. This is dangerous. A drill press is the only safe way to make that hole with a drill bit. Your jagged hole is from the human inability to keep the drill perfectly centered on the pilot hole.
I'm going to disagree on that, Don. I'm willing to bet that with the right extra equipment, I could nail a 1.125" diameter hole with a hand drill, or two. I've done something similar before, though with a smaller hole. (I've hand-drilled one using a step drill, too. That was "fun".)

I'd be using some core drills, an egg cup or two, a drill block and clamps, and a bunch of bushings, ending with a reamer. For the larger holes, I'd use a much slower drill. It's definitely possible, but it'll take time. (I tried to hunt stuff like that up on McMaster yesterday, but no dice. Might have to try another source.)
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Re: How to Make a Clean Hole with 1 1/8" Dill Bit?

We've had great success this year starting with a centre drill, then 1/8 or so, then 1" (largest drill we have) then reaming to 1 1/8. As said previously, a 1 1/8 reamer has a very large shank and is very long. We cut it off just long enough so that when we chucked it up in a lathe with the teeth behind the chuck we didn't damage the teeth. We then turned the shank down to 1/2. We do as much of the reaming as possible in a vertical mill because it's more rigid, we can secure the work better and we can cut the rpm way down. Has worked really well.
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Re: How to Make a Clean Hole with 1 1/8" Dill Bit?

Perhaps hand reaming (with the proper undersized hole) would be applicable if powered isn't an option due to the large shank associated with large reamers. Basically tapping (so make sure its straight and because its reamer you don't need to back out to break chips )

(If you really have no other options adjustable hand reamers is an option albeit not the best option)

If you have a access to a mill a boring head and properly located hole would work too (but as the op stated just a drillpress)


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(edit quick google showed up a couple websites for a 1 1/8 reamer for around 50 - 70 dollars) (victornet, grizzly and amazon namely)

(heres a guide (reaming not included) http://www.micro-machine-shop.com/hole_drilling.htm)

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I'm going to disagree on that, Don. I'm willing to bet that with the right extra equipment, I could nail a 1.125" diameter hole with a hand drill, or two. I've done something similar before, though with a smaller hole. (I've hand-drilled one using a step drill, too. That was "fun".)

I'd be using some core drills, an egg cup or two, a drill block and clamps, and a bunch of bushings, ending with a reamer. For the larger holes, I'd use a much slower drill. It's definitely possible, but it'll take time. (I tried to hunt stuff like that up on McMaster yesterday, but no dice. Might have to try another source.)
Eric, I have no doubt you could DO it. My point was that it's not SAFE to use a hand-held drill for such a large hole using the OP's twist drill setup. Core drills react differently to snags than twist drills.

That also doesn't mean I have never done it. But I know the dangers and addressed them. Case in point: I still have all my limbs, and in proper working order.
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Re: How to Make a Clean Hole with 1 1/8" Dill Bit?

To help a junk drill press make better big holes fill the column with concrete. http://www.teeterconsulting.com/mach...g_Machine.html

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Re: How to Make a Clean Hole with 1 1/8" Dill Bit?

I would vote step drill, and then maybe reaming to the final size.

I've always had good results using step drills, in a hand-drill or otherwise.
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