Game Manual - Team Update - 2014-03-11

[Jim Giacchi]

I'm not sure if this has happened yet, but has FIRST actually enforced this rule and disqualified a team?

I know for certain that in 2012 a team detached their shooter and brought it in separate from the robot. A very sharp robot inspector saw it, figured hey that seems heavy and had them weigh it. Sure enough it was over the limit. The inspector told them they couldn't use the assembly. His suggested course of action was to remove the motors and gearboxes, essentially putting those parts back to COTS and it would have dropped the weight below the threshold. The team was a somewhat veteran team and called up to FIRST who promptly told the inspector to quit it....

Does anyone have any examples of a team being punished for an infraction of this rule? Just curious as it seems silly if FIRST isn't enforcing it and from my admittedly limited experience, I have not seen that.

[AllenGregoryIV]

Originally Posted by Jim Giacchi

I'm not sure if this has happened yet, but has FIRST actually enforced this rule and disqualified a team?

I know for certain that in 2012 a team detached their shooter and brought it in separate from the robot. A very sharp robot inspector saw it, figured hey that seems heavy and had them weigh it. Sure enough it was over the limit. The inspector told them they couldn't use the assembly. His suggested course of action was to remove the motors and gearboxes, essentially putting those parts back to COTS and it would have dropped the weight below the threshold. The team was a somewhat veteran team and called up to FIRST who promptly told the inspector to quit it....

Does anyone have any examples of a team being punished for an infraction of this rule? Just curious as it seems silly if FIRST isn't enforcing it and from my admittedly limited experience, I have not seen that.

I've had teams remove spare parts that were obviously over the weight limit (Whole drive trains and mechanisms). I have also had to give a stern talking to to teams that bring practice robots to the event. I have never had to disqualify a team.

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by Jim Giacchi

I'm not sure if this has happened yet, but has FIRST actually enforced this rule and disqualified a team?

I know for certain that in 2012 a team detached their shooter and brought it in separate from the robot. A very sharp robot inspector saw it, figured hey that seems heavy and had them weigh it. Sure enough it was over the limit. The inspector told them they couldn't use the assembly. His suggested course of action was to remove the motors and gearboxes, essentially putting those parts back to COTS and it would have dropped the weight below the threshold. The team was a somewhat veteran team and called up to FIRST who promptly told the inspector to quit it....

Does anyone have any examples of a team being punished for an infraction of this rule? Just curious as it seems silly if FIRST isn't enforcing it and from my admittedly limited experience, I have not seen that.

If FIRST really told an inspector to stop enforcing a rule then I don't know what to say.

[Steve W]

Originally Posted by Jim Giacchi

I'm not sure if this has happened yet, but has FIRST actually enforced this rule and disqualified a team?

Does anyone have any examples of a team being punished for an infraction of this rule? Just curious as it seems silly if FIRST isn't enforcing it and from my admittedly limited experience, I have not seen that.

I am an LRI and inspector. I have in the last 2 years told teams to remove overweight items from the pit area. They did so immediately. If they disassembled them and brought them back in pieces I did not notice but with big size becomes big target. I have never been told that I am wrong for enforcing the rules.