World Rankings 2014

[Jimmy Nichols]

I am doing something similar to score the Ohio teams for our State Event this year. Question on your week 2 results. 4269 came into Q3-3 as a back up bot at Crossroads, won 5 matches, why do they not have any elimination points?

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Nichols

I am doing something similar to score the Ohio teams for our State Event this year. Question on your week 2 results. 4269 came into Q3-3 as a back up bot at Crossroads, won 5 matches, why do they not have any elimination points?

I have to correct backup teams points manually. I remember doing that for 5188 and 4269, but probably overwrote those values when fixing something else. Attached are corrected rankings.

[Jimmy Nichols]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

I have to correct backup teams points manually. I remember doing that for 5188 and 4269, but probably overwrote those values when fixing something else. Attached are corrected rankings.

Thanks!

[Joe Ross]

There are a few issues with week 3 events. St. Louis only posted a few awards. I don't have correct alliance selection results for Mexico City. The order posted in the 2014 Alliance Selection thread was not correct. When first and second pick could not be unambiguously determined, I used the higher seed as the first pick. I will update when updated data is available.

Week 3 rankings are attached. Top 25 are below.

Rank	Team	Events	Points
1	4488	1	161
2	33	1	156
3	2175	1	156
4	4967	1	156
5	1310	1	152
6	2337	1	152
7	118	2	150
8	3824	1	150
9	971	1	150
10	138	1	150
11	1108	1	150
12	1986	2	149
13	1678	2	148
14	4125	1	148
15	525	1	146
16	254	1	146
17	16	1	146
18	107	2	144
19	3794	1	144
20	2996	1	144
21	3467	1	144
22	4911	1	144
23	1126	1	142
24	67	1	142
25	2590	1	142

[safiq10]

I'm currious is this just for week 3? because 2590 competed in week 1 and 148 not on this list?

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by safiq10

I'm currious is this just for week 3? because 2590 competed in week 1 and 148 not on this list?

The rankings are cumulative. 148 is ranked 50th.

[Littleboy]

Are you accounting for the fact that teams can only win Chairman's once and rookie and second year teams only get those points once? Or are you just doubling single event teams without factoring those things in?

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by Littleboy

Are you accounting for the fact that teams can only win Chairman's once and rookie and second year teams only get those points once? Or are you just doubling single event teams without factoring those things in?

For a single event team, award points of any type are doubled (I figure that a team that wins Chairman's at their first event have a much better chance to win EI or other awards at the second event). Age bonuses are not doubled.

[Joe Ross]

Week 4 rankings are attached. I have not had time to do as much error checking as normal, but wanted to post before events really got going for Week 5.

St Louis awards were posted and affected teams were recalculated.
Mexico City and Buckeye best guess alliance selection order was used.
William Barnickel found that Wisconsin Elimination wins data was not correctly entered. This will be corrected in the next revision.
Domenic found that the Lenape Seneca Finalist and Winners were switched. This will be corrected in the next revision.

Rank	Team	Events	Points
1	2486	1	160
2	2175	1	156
3	4488	2	154
4	1310	1	152
5	2337	1	152
6	118	2	150
7	3824	1	150
8	971	1	150
9	1501	1	150
10	1108	1	150
11	1986	2	149
12	1678	2	148
13	4125	1	148
14	254	2	148
15	2590	2	147
16	525	1	146
17	16	1	146
18	384	1	144
19	107	3	144
20	3794	1	144
21	2996	1	144
22	3467	1	144
23	1126	1	142
24	67	1	142
25	1266	1	142

[barn34]

I don't think our ranking points are correct. I'm not 100% sure what might be mixed up in the spreadsheet, but here's my best guess:

Overall record in quals is 16-5-1 = 33 points (37 QP is in the spreadsheet)
2 seed alliance captain at Wisconsin = 15 points
2nd alliance pick at CIR = 15 points
7 total wins in elim matches (1 at CIR, 6 at Wisconsin) = 35 points
1 judged award (IC at Wisconsin) = 5 points

That's 103 points, but the spreadsheet only shows 82.

I don't think our 30 points worth of elim match wins were entered for Wisconsin and our QP are at 37 instead of 33. Does that look right, or did I miss something in the scoring?

[hrench]

I just want to say 'thank you' for doing this. I know it probably takes a bunch of time, but many of us find it interesting.

[barn34]

Originally Posted by hrench

I just want to say 'thank you' for doing this. I know it probably takes a bunch of time, but many of us find it interesting.

Yes, definitely second this.

I was curious to check out the teams at the top, hit ctrl+f to see how my team measured up to the top, and that's where I spotted the potential issues in the elim column. If there's anything I can help troubleshoot, just let me know.

I just did a little digging by looking up the teams that we've played with at competitions for some comparisons and it looks possible that the data imported for Wisconsin may be suspect. Not all, but the majority of teams I've looked at from Wisconsin have erroneous data. Not sure if that helps, but figured I would pass it along.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by barn34

I don't think our ranking points are correct. I'm not 100% sure what might be mixed up in the spreadsheet, but here's my best guess:

Overall record in quals is 16-5-1 = 33 points (37 QP is in the spreadsheet)
2 seed alliance captain at Wisconsin = 15 points
2nd alliance pick at CIR = 15 points
7 total wins in elim matches (1 at CIR, 6 at Wisconsin) = 35 points
1 judged award (IC at Wisconsin) = 5 points

That's 103 points, but the spreadsheet only shows 82.

I don't think our 30 points worth of elim match wins were entered for Wisconsin and our QP are at 37 instead of 33. Does that look right, or did I miss something in the scoring?

Thanks. You are correct, Wisconsin elims were not entered correctly. The qual record discrepancy is due to the normalization for 12 matches in Wisconsin. 19QP * 12 normalize matches / 10 actual matches = 22.8, rounds to 23. You only get elimination win points if you advance, so you get 30 for Wisconsin, 0 for Central Illinois. My revised score for 2481 is 102 normalized, 98 unnormalized.

[barn34]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

Thanks. You are correct, Wisconsin elims were not entered correctly. The qual record discrepancy is due to the normalization for 12 matches in Wisconsin. 19QP * 12 normalize matches / 10 actual matches = 22.8, rounds to 23. You only get elimination win points if you advance, so you get 30 for Wisconsin, 0 for Central Illinois. My revised score for 2481 is 102 normalized, 98 unnormalized.

Gotcha! That makes a lot more sense now. Again, thanks for doing this and let me know if you need any help in the future.

[Domenic Rodriguez]

Thanks for putting together these rankings! It's interesting to see how teams stack up on the global scale.

I noticed that there was a mistake in regards to elimination points for the winners and finalists at Lenape. Teams 3929, 316, and 2559 should have ten additional elim points (as we won the event), and teams 2590, 1640, and 223 currently have 10 extra elim points.