Go to Post I like ice cream. - Andy Baker [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-03-2014, 17:55
rwkling1's Avatar
rwkling1 rwkling1 is offline
Registered User
FRC #2977 (Sir Lancer Bots)
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 143
rwkling1 has a spectacular aura aboutrwkling1 has a spectacular aura about
How many points?

http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2014mndu_qm88

In this match, I watched it a few times and they recorded the score as 76 for the blue alliance, although it wouldn't have changed the outcome, how much do you guys see the score as? I found a few missed possessions and just in general some incorrect scoring and missed scoring, my worry is that it didn't just happen in this match and it could have happened to other alliances also.
Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-03-2014, 19:14
MARS_James's Avatar
MARS_James MARS_James is offline
Always Scouting
AKA: James Comstock
FRC #0179 (The Children of The Swamp)
Team Role: Tactician
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Jupiter, Florida
Posts: 1,966
MARS_James has a reputation beyond reputeMARS_James has a reputation beyond reputeMARS_James has a reputation beyond reputeMARS_James has a reputation beyond reputeMARS_James has a reputation beyond reputeMARS_James has a reputation beyond reputeMARS_James has a reputation beyond reputeMARS_James has a reputation beyond reputeMARS_James has a reputation beyond reputeMARS_James has a reputation beyond reputeMARS_James has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to MARS_James
Re: How many points?

Although it is hard to tell from the video cause it is not the whole field, it looks like both of the blue alliance assist cycles that match were 3 assist not 2 which were counted.
__________________
Driving Record: 24-8
Coaching Record: 66-31
2014 South Florida Regional Woodie Flowers Finalist


Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-03-2014, 19:55
Max Boord Max Boord is offline
Registered User
FRC #0179 (The Children of The Swamp), FRC #1592 (Bionic Tigers)
Team Role: Tactician
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 238
Max Boord has a brilliant futureMax Boord has a brilliant futureMax Boord has a brilliant futureMax Boord has a brilliant futureMax Boord has a brilliant futureMax Boord has a brilliant futureMax Boord has a brilliant futureMax Boord has a brilliant futureMax Boord has a brilliant futureMax Boord has a brilliant futureMax Boord has a brilliant future
Re: How many points?

It is a bit hard with switching cameras but I count 3 assists. Was a challenge made? Outcome?

It happened in our 2nd QF and it was an outcome changer. Here is the video of our match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXLXG...9Hg DQxrs7MSz. During our 1st cycle if you look closely, the assist lights on the goal flicker form 2 -3 assists as 1065 attempts to finish the cycle.
A ref told me that the 3rd assist was added after the match ended. This is untrue as the score was never changed from the end of the match to the posted score. When our alliance captain challenged this he was told "We do not have time to investigate and the score will stand".

We lost by 6 points and the assist would have meant an additional 20.
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-03-2014, 20:17
rwkling1's Avatar
rwkling1 rwkling1 is offline
Registered User
FRC #2977 (Sir Lancer Bots)
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 143
rwkling1 has a spectacular aura aboutrwkling1 has a spectacular aura about
Re: How many points?

No challenge was made, because the alliance we were on it would not have changed the outcome, and more importantly, I didn't realize it until now while I was watching some of the matches.
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-03-2014, 20:28
alextound alextound is offline
Registered User
no team
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Iowa
Posts: 45
alextound is infamous around these partsalextound is infamous around these partsalextound is infamous around these partsalextound is infamous around these partsalextound is infamous around these partsalextound is infamous around these partsalextound is infamous around these parts
Re: How many points?

almost all of the matches I watched (in bleachers) I felt had missed assists and some other not fully counted scoring. I'm glad you brought this up, since I thought it was me being overly crazy. . . but I think for future matches we should have a person from each alliance keep their own score and if it doesn't match it should be challenged . . . all matches are being recorded somehow any ways
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-03-2014, 20:29
Siri's Avatar
Siri Siri is offline
Dare greatly
AKA: 1640 coach 2010-2014
no team (Refs & RIs)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: PA
Posts: 1,628
Siri has a reputation beyond reputeSiri has a reputation beyond reputeSiri has a reputation beyond reputeSiri has a reputation beyond reputeSiri has a reputation beyond reputeSiri has a reputation beyond reputeSiri has a reputation beyond reputeSiri has a reputation beyond reputeSiri has a reputation beyond reputeSiri has a reputation beyond reputeSiri has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via ICQ to Siri
Re: How many points?

In the first cycle, the video does not show 3840 crossing fully into the white zone, so it would stay 2 assists. (They may have in actuality, but I don't see a shot of it on camera.)

In the second cycle, it would seem reasonable that 3294 got possession in Red around 1:35, but it's possible that the first assist is actually 3840 (Red or White) and 3294 lost track of the ball before gaining possession in Red. Again, 2 assists (2977 in Blue). Alternatively, it's possible 3294 did have possession in Red, and it was indeed a 3 assist cycle.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-03-2014, 20:42
rwkling1's Avatar
rwkling1 rwkling1 is offline
Registered User
FRC #2977 (Sir Lancer Bots)
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 143
rwkling1 has a spectacular aura aboutrwkling1 has a spectacular aura about
Re: How many points?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Siri View Post
In the first cycle, the video does not show 3840 crossing fully into the white zone, so it would stay 2 assists. (They may have in actuality, but I don't see a shot of it on camera.)

In the second cycle, it would seem reasonable that 3294 got possession in Red around 1:35, but it's possible that the first assist is actually 3840 (Red or White) and 3294 lost track of the ball before gaining possession in Red. Again, 2 assists (2977 in Blue). Alternatively, it's possible 3294 did have possession in Red, and it was indeed a 3 assist cycle.
I agree, some parts of it is very hard to see because of the camera. Autonomous appears to be scored correctly, although, the first cycle never was scored. There was a double assist for blue with a one point score, which should be 11 points, but it seemed like they were trying to add the score, but it never was added, it stayed at 55 until the next truss shot was made. Then, if you watch at 1:53, there has been a single assist recorded, then you can see the second robot posses the ball in the middle zone (blue), then throw it over the truss (truss was correctly added to the score), then the third blue robot possessed it in the third zone which the assist was never recorded, so it should have been a 3 assist +1 point score, but it was a double assist recorded.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 15:35.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi