[NE FIRST] District Championship point cutoff

[Jessica Boucher]

Don't forget that there will be teams who will decline their invitation. So even though the cutoff may be X, the top 53 teams who want to go are in.

It's just like alliance selection - if you're on the bubble, create a pick list anyway.

[esquared]

Originally Posted by Jessica Boucher

Don't forget that there will be teams who will decline their invitation. So even though the cutoff may be X, the top 53 teams who want to go are in.

It's just like alliance selection - if you're on the bubble, create a pick list anyway.

Is it possible to update the NEFIRST.org rankings sheet with a column indicating the number of events each team has attended? Although a patient person could find all that information out themselves, it would at a glance give teams an idea of where the target is.

[Lil' Lavery]

It is mathematically impossible to qualify for the Championship event if you don't attend your district championship. That's the precise reason why the 3x multiplier for the district championship was selected.

Originally Posted by Jessica Boucher

Don't forget that there will be teams who will decline their invitation. So even though the cutoff may be X, the top 53 teams who want to go are in.

It's just like alliance selection - if you're on the bubble, create a pick list anyway.

I can tell you, from a MAR perspective, this is very important. MAR has had 10+ teams that qualified for MAR CMP not attend the event in both of the previous two years. If you're anywhere near the cutoff, be prepared to go if you're invited.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

It is mathematically impossible to qualify for the Championship event if you don't attend your district championship. That's the precise reason why the 3x multiplier for the district championship was selected.

That's not true, It's hard, but not mathematically impossible. In Michigan last year, team 314 was the last team that qualified for the championship with 133 points. There were 6 teams that had 133 or more points after 2 districts. It will be easier to do this in a larger district system (with more qualifying teams) then a smaller one. It did not happen in MAR last year.

[Thad House]

If the points cutoff for worlds is about 150, then it would be potentially possible for the #1-3 teams in points before regional championships to make worlds without attending the regional champs, because a total of about 170 points is possible for 2 district events. But it would be very difficult to do, and I highly doubt the #1-3 teams in points would skip the regional championships.

[Bill_B]

Is there a source for match results that has autonomous and teleop points shown separately?

[engunneer]

Originally Posted by Bill_B

Is there a source for match results that has autonomous and teleop points shown separately?

The twitter data (replicated many places, but FRC Spy (above on this page) is one of them) has everything separate. You can filter by team or competition.

[Bill_B]

Twitter data may be replicated many places, but frcspy has precisely one entry for ctgro that is apparently practice match 2. No other filtering raised anything useful regarding the Groton matches. Bummer.

[Bill_B]

I made a Q&D google spreadsheet to compute championship points values for a variety of scenarios. You can see it here. I have enabled editing for it, so please be careful to avoid scrambling it up too badly. If you have drastic revisions to make, you should be able to apply them to a copy. Please share your improvement ideas.

Whatever the cutoff turns out to be, this will help a team establish some performance goal(s) for their event(s) without having to strain the imagination too much.

[plnyyanks]

Originally Posted by Bill_B

Twitter data may be replicated many places, but frcspy has precisely one entry for ctgro that is apparently practice match 2. No other filtering raised anything useful regarding the Groton matches. Bummer.

What data for Groton do you need? I have some of the FMS reports from the end of the competition that might have what you're looking for

[Bill_B]

Thanks Phil. We got thrown by a wicked curveball in autonomous when on the field. A pretty reliable routine in practice went totally sour on the field and we spent a lot of time trying to understand what difference between the field and practice was biting us. Aside from the damage to our scoring reputation, I was trying to see how much effect a better auto score would have had on the matches we lost. Our programmers have reworked the auto code and we've added some sensor usage to improve the performance overall.

[plnyyanks]

Surprisingly, the end of event reports don't give the score breakdown by part anywhere. Just final scores. So I don't think I can help you. They should change that for next year...

[lf3307]

Team 885 has asked for score detail for all district events...

I posted most of the WPI data under the WPI event thread.


Dan H.
Team 885