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Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

With all the chatter about how insane foul points are this year, here's a tool that shows all the matches where foul points decide the match

http://public.tableausoftware.com/vi...lay_count= no
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

Just as an FYI i just checked my team (179) and Match 40 of Orlando we lost due to foul points, but the chart shows different
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

Can anyone tell me why no information from NH Granite State District are available?

131 has data from their second event, but not GSD.
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

Fixed! Thanks for the info!

It was a bad calculation: if the match would be a tie without foul points, it was previously counted as a "Not Decided by Fouls"
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

1266, 2339, and 3328 won San Diego Qualifier #28 because of foul points.
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

Brandon, the FRC Spy data (which is taken from twitter), says that 1266, 2339, and 3328 (the blue alliance) lost 90 to 53 and there were no fouls. You can verify here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/frcspy.php?
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

Is there some way to indicate that a tie would have been won or lost because of the penalty? We (1511) had one of those in match 47 at the NY Tech Valley regional. Because ties are just lines at the axis, I can't tell if it has color.
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

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Is there some way to indicate that a tie would have been won or lost because of the penalty? We (1511) had one of those in match 47 at the NY Tech Valley regional. Because ties are just lines at the axis, I can't tell if it has color.
Here's a complete list (well, as complete as the Twitter data anyway).

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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

Thank You. This is a great tool.
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

This was working better yesterday. Now the MAR Mt Olive matches are not present.
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This was working better yesterday. Now the MAR Mt Olive matches are not present.
The following NJFLA match outcomes were affected by foul points:
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3448	Sun, 02 Mar 2014 14:50:27 +0000	NJFLA	E	18	90	132
3495	Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:45:14 +0000	NJFLA	E	5	132	121
3540	Sat, 01 Mar 2014 18:27:30 +0000	NJFLA	Q	67	50	61
3556	Sat, 01 Mar 2014 17:56:45 +0000	NJFLA	Q	62	78	102
3634	Sat, 01 Mar 2014 15:35:37 +0000	NJFLA	Q	41	80	70
3637	Sat, 01 Mar 2014 15:31:13 +0000	NJFLA	Q	40	66	50
3682	Sat, 01 Mar 2014 14:25:48 +0000	NJFLA	Q	32	61	105
3693	Sat, 01 Mar 2014 14:10:47 +0000	NJFLA	Q	31	55	55
3714	Sat, 01 Mar 2014 13:34:11 +0000	NJFLA	Q	29	86	75
3722	Sat, 01 Mar 2014 13:21:15 +0000	NJFLA	Q	27	60	40
3757	Sat, 01 Mar 2014 12:14:39 +0000	NJFLA	Q	17	55	12
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

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Can anyone tell me why no information from NH Granite State District are available?

131 has data from their second event, but not GSD.
Penalties per match can only be determined based on twitter data. GSD had issues both with their twitter feed and the webcast, so I'm assuming there was something up with the internet at the high school.

Looks like Groton also had issues with Twitter also. Shame they don't bring a hotspot into smaller events like this, as they've been running into this issue for several years now.
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Looks like Groton also had issues with Twitter also. Shame they don't bring a hotspot into smaller events like this...
How difficult would it be to simply store the data locally and make it available later?

Does anybody have contact info for the person(s) within FIRST who would have the authority to make this happen and might be open to such a change?


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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

I'm curious to see which team(s) have been most affected by foul points. Which teams have lost the most matches due to fouls? Which teams have won the most due to fouls?
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

Is it possible to compare this year to 2013? I remember some scores from last year with high foul counts. But I wasn't paying as much attention to when those were the cause of a loss. I know of at least one match last year when we lost because of it. There may have been others. This year I know there was only one such match for us so far. For that reason I am starting to question how much different this year is than last year.
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