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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

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Looks like Groton also had issues with Twitter also. Shame they don't bring a hotspot into smaller events like this...
How difficult would it be to simply store the data locally and make it available later?

Does anybody have contact info for the person(s) within FIRST who would have the authority to make this happen and might be open to such a change?


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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

I'm curious to see which team(s) have been most affected by foul points. Which teams have lost the most matches due to fouls? Which teams have won the most due to fouls?
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

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I'm curious to see which team(s) have been most affected by foul points. Which teams have lost the most matches due to fouls? Which teams have won the most due to fouls?
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

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If you can think of a better way to present this let me know. I haven't thoroughly cross-checked it yet.
A suggestion:

Even if some of these are from elimination matches, you could organize it as a qualifications-like league table:

Team WfL TfL LfW LfT TfW TfL Points

Where XfY is X from Y (eg WfL is Win from Loss) in number of games, and points is the cumulative points change (eg a WfL will give you +2, a TfL = +1, and a LfW = -2).

It could also be more useful to separate it in to two tables, with one dedicated to benefits (ie points gained) and the other to costs (ie points lost).
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

moved foul point analysis here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh....php?p=1362035

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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

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I replaced the PDF with a spreadsheet:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh....php?p=1361958


I think all the other info you're looking for is in this spreadsheet:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh....php?p=1361812


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On first glance, it seems 245, 399 and 4776 (-10) have been hurt the most, while 4500 (+12) has benefitted from foul points the most. (Not quite useful analysis so far)
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moved foul point analysis here:
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

The site appears to be down as of 11:33PM EST 3/20
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You hit the site during an upgrade!
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

This shows the net benefit for every team due to fouls:

http://public.tableausoftware.com/pr...BenefitByFouls

You can filter by event
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

Is it possible to compare this year to 2013? I remember some scores from last year with high foul counts. But I wasn't paying as much attention to when those were the cause of a loss. I know of at least one match last year when we lost because of it. There may have been others. This year I know there was only one such match for us so far. For that reason I am starting to question how much different this year is than last year.
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Hoover, it's possible to do that comparison, but it's a low priority on my long todo list.
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Is it possible to compare this year to 2013?
Here's the 2013 analysis. You can compare it to the 2014 YTD analysis here.
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

Wasn't sure where to post this, but I'm pretty sure this is the ultimate example of a match decided by foul points... (taken today at the Greater DC Regional). http://imgur.com/zz7mss1
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

The NC Regional Champions were decided by foul points. The last match of the finals had a Technical foul that decided the match. I heard that it was a dubious "possession of opponents ball" foul, but I never confirmed it.

I was rooting for 900 and the other teams that won though, they stuck with their alliance partner who seemed to be having over-heating issues and were made up of some real diamonds in the rough. It was an exciting Finals either way.
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