301 points! and could have done more

[falconmaster]

Originally Posted by dodar

Other than the fact they won, do you think 2403 was having a blast during F1-2 in the fact they never moved and touched the ball for less than 15 seconds the whole match?

Saying they wouldnt have wanted to drive around and play defense and push people around rather than just sit there is ludicrous.

Maybe 2403 will answer themselves. I can say that they contributed 10 points every cycle. The human player through the ball to 2403 and they popped the ball up and over to us and we then took it to the truss which we through over to the other human player and then they dumped it into 2486 which then made the goal. By the way they also did that all through the finals matches and just added defense when they could. But you can ask them....

[MrForbes]

Originally Posted by falconmaster

I can say that they contributed 10 points every cycle.

You mean 20 points per cycle. In a second or two. That's the best point/time performance of any of the teams on your alliance. Steven and I were discussing that this morning.

[falconmaster]

Originally Posted by MrForbes

You mean 20 points per cycle. In a second or two. That's the best point/time performance of any of the teams on your alliance. Steven and I were discussing that this morning.

Thanks Jim, you see why I am not on the drive team....

[dodar]

Originally Posted by falconmaster

Maybe 2403 will answer themselves. I can say that they contributed 10 points every cycle. The human player through the ball to 2403 and they popped the ball up and over to us and we then took it to the truss which we through over to the other human player and then they dumped it into 2486 which then made the goal. By the way they also did that all through the finals matches and just added defense when they could. But you can ask them....

Saying "they just added defense when they could" vastly undercuts their efforts on your alliance. In the QF alone they stopped that blue alliance from scoring at least 50% more.

[falconmaster]

Originally Posted by dodar

Saying "they just added defense when they could" vastly undercuts their efforts on your alliance. In the QF alone they stopped that blue alliance from scoring at least 50% more.

You keep looking for negatives among a whole group of people who are obviously happy about their decision. Are you a lawyer? Just kidding. Think what you want, we all stand by our decision.

[dodar]

Originally Posted by falconmaster

You keep looking for negatives among a whole group of people who are obviously happy about their decision. Are you a lawyer? Just kidding. Think what you want, we all stand by our decision.

Im not looking for negatives, just pointed out what you said. And I bet you guys are happy, you won the regional; to which I say congrats.

[seg9585]

Morality and consensual agreements between opponents aside, this was by far the most boring Finals match I've ever seen in any FIRST regional ever, considering how many points were actually scored. You really wanted to end a competition like this?

[falconmaster]

Originally Posted by seg9585

Morality and consensual agreements between opponents aside, this was by far the most boring Finals match I've ever seen in any FIRST regional ever, considering how many points were actually scored. You really wanted to end a competition like this?

Well its very fortunate then that there are many regionals. Our regional is what it was. Gracious professionalism and coopertition.

[seg9585]

Originally Posted by falconmaster

Well its very fortunate then that there are many regionals. Our regional is what it was. Gracious professionalism and coopertition.

Let me ask real quick, then: Would this type of match be acceptable if it was the Final match on the Einstein field? How big of a bribe would be required to make it acceptable on Einstein?

Conversely, would the teams have done this in Arizona if only $100 off was offered? Just $50 off? There must be a threshold...

Many teams and almost all spectators (and sponsor reps) only go to 1 regional so this is all they see.

[MrForbes]

Interesting questions. No one has mentioned that Mr. Sanghi also donated more money to pay for the winning alliance team's entry fees for Championships. It would be more valuable to a team to win the finals, than to get the 200 points. It might not have been as much about the money as you think.

[dodar]

Originally Posted by MrForbes

Interesting questions. No one has mentioned that Mr. Sanghi also donated more money to pay for the winning alliance team's entry fees for Championships. It would be more valuable to a team to win the finals, than to get the 200 points. It might not have been as much about the money as you think.

Thats not what is being put across.

[falconmaster]

Originally Posted by seg9585

Let me ask real quick, then: Would this type of match be acceptable if it was the Final match on the Einstein field? How big of a bribe would be required to make it acceptable on Einstein?

Conversely, would the teams have done this in Arizona if only $100 off was offered? Just $50 off? There must be a threshold...

Many teams and almost all spectators (and sponsor reps) only go to 1 regional so this is all they see.

It wasn't the money, it was the challenge! There was no bribe. The whole contest was public, no shady deals. The money was incidental. The interesting thing is that all involved are happy and enjoyed the whole event. Its only been the people that were not there that seem to have difficulty with this. I wonder if teams on Einstein would ever see the other possibilities that exist in this approach of the game, seeing who can outscore the other, money aside.

[dodar]

Would you rather watch the National Flag Football Championships or the NFL Super Bowl? Thats the difference you which you are talking about.

I could almost guarantee you 9/10 would pick the SB.

[MrForbes]

I'd rather watch NURC than any kind of football....but they're not holding it this year. Next year...watch out!

[dodar]

Originally Posted by falconmaster

Previous match 1 match in finals with defense 225 to 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNwCVSuy1vw
after this both alliances agreed to try to get 200 point plus each to get a bet made by Steve Sanghi, to get 500 dollars off the next years registration. almost made it 301 to 180

Originally Posted by falconmaster

It wasn't the money, it was the challenge! There was no bribe. The whole contest was public, no shady deals. The money was incidental. The interesting thing is that all involved are happy and enjoyed the whole event. Its only been the people that were not there that seem to have difficulty with this. I wonder if teams on Einstein would ever see the other possibilities that exist in this approach of the game, seeing who can outscore the other, money aside.

Something doesnt match here.