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I dont see the logic. Also, I dont see how you cant see if the money brought you to any type of strategy, how that is bad. |
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No I agree with everyone else on this thread the actions that were taken in that finals match were way out of line why have it be a finals match but play it like a practice match. I am a new mentor on an AZ team that was competing last weekend FRC team 4841. The day that sponsor gave out that challenge I knew unless something like this situation took place where no one played def that challenge wouldn't be met. I am honestly saddened to see a HOF team act in that manner. I know the team that made me who I am today which is FRC 71 would never act like that, in fact we played every match to the fullest and knew if we lost we gave it our all. If thats the way Arizona Robotics is gonna be ran then I am not someone who wants to be apart of it
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If someone had told me this story as hearsay, I would have told them they must be wrong. That kind of thing does not happen in FIRST. But evidently from these first hand accounts it is true. Never have I heard of sponsors or anyone else offering money to teams who can manage a certain outcome to matches. That is the worst idea and the slipperiest slope I have ever heard of. Even if the sponsor's intent wasn't to pump up the scores and records at their regional, how could they not anticipate that there would be any other appearance? Is this where FIRST is going? Cash prizes for scoring performances? Some regionals with monetary prizes and some regionals without? I cannot believe that FIRST agrees with or condones this situation. There are more considerations and more teams/people affected by this than just those involved in this match. The integrity of the results of the regional, the integrity of scoring records, statistics, and OPRs in all of FRC, and the integrity of FIRST competitions in general are affected. FIRST is an amatuer sport driven by GP, learning, and competitive spirit. Nothing good can come from making it a competition for money. Last edited by jspatz1 : 24-03-2014 at 16:45. Reason: typo |
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So you are saying that if the $500 towards next year's registration wasnt offered, the blue alliance would have just gone along with the "no defense" agreement for(pardon the language) "shits and giggles?" Mind you, at risk of losing the regional.
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If the challenge was in place, then abso-freaking-lutely.
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I completely agree
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Then Im sorry but they are in the wrong competition to just blindly give up a chance at going to the World Championships to try and reach a goal that no one really cares about for no gain whatsoever.
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Falcons missed both of theirs,
Sorry Jim we made both of ours, but a great recounting. Srka Johnson and drive team had final say on strategy I gave my ok. |
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So be it.
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*"Good final match" is subject to the viewer's opinion |
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C'mon, it was a fun challenge that no one had attempted. The $500 was just a deduction from the team's entrance fee next year (and they didn't even get it). |
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MOV F1-2: 121 In terms of this years' game, that 3 point difference is negligible. They did the same; no defense didnt help them. |
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That's one metric. Blue scored 44.9% of red's score in the first finals match, and 59.8% in the second. They also scored 78% more points.
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