Go to Post 610 is an all boys school, and we were surprised to see our pit and robot neatly decorated with hot pink boas and flowers upon arrival this morning. - Mr. Lim [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
 
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 19 votes, 4.05 average. Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-03-2014, 21:59
jspatz1's Avatar
jspatz1 jspatz1 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Jeff
FRC #1986 (Team Titanium)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Lee's Summit, MO
Posts: 836
jspatz1 has a reputation beyond reputejspatz1 has a reputation beyond reputejspatz1 has a reputation beyond reputejspatz1 has a reputation beyond reputejspatz1 has a reputation beyond reputejspatz1 has a reputation beyond reputejspatz1 has a reputation beyond reputejspatz1 has a reputation beyond reputejspatz1 has a reputation beyond reputejspatz1 has a reputation beyond reputejspatz1 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to jspatz1
Re: 301 points! and could have done more

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOtherGuy View Post
Is it really that bad!?
What is "that bad" is the precedent it sets, and the pandora's box it opens. Where does this stop if it is allowed? Do we want any individual with money to be allowed to offer cash prizes at FIRST events to see teams perform feats they would like to see performed? This challenge was not directly in sync with the goals of the game and the competition. It encouraged teams to achieve a scoring feat just for the sake of the scoring feat. What do you tell the next sponsor who would like to pay to see their favorite feat achieved? Who can make the longest shot? Who can complete the most catches? Who decides if a challenge with a monetary prize is a legitimate one and whether to allow it? What amount is considered OK to offer, and what amount is too much? How many cash prizes can be offered at one event? This all may sound absurd, but once the precedent has been set to allow it, on what basis do you not allow it? I understand that the sponsor's intentions were good, and that he only wanted to "raise the level of competition", and that he had done it before. Having third parties offer cash prizes at FIRST competitions for performance feats is a bad idea. Not just because of this incident, but because of the next one, and the next one.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOtherGuy View Post
Can you point me to the negative effects of this challenge?
Putting into question the legitimacy of the results of the regional. Putting into question the legitimacy of the scoring and OPR data from the regional. Tempting teams and students to play in a different manner than they would otherwise play in straight competition. Tempting teams and students to play for a goal other than goals of the tournament. Setting the precedent for additional 3rd party monetary rewards that cannot be governed. Creating discord between the events with cash prizes and those without. Most importantly, inviting accusations of "pay-for-play" from FIRST detractors that could discredit the FRC and FIRST.
Reply With Quote
 


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 23:14.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi