2014 MAR Standings

[Lil' Lavery]

Forgot about the changes to the elimination scoring and award points. Thanks for the clarification!

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The 11 teams registered for a Regional and their current District Points/Rank/# Events

					District		
Team	Regional		Week	Points	Rank	Events
56	Greater DC		w5	103	1	2
1218	Greater Pittsburgh	w5	93	4	2
11	Hawaii			w5	79	6	2
225	Greater DC		w5	65	15	1
303	Buckeye			w4	63	20	2
341	Finger Lakes		w5	62	21	1
2016	Queen City		w5	56	29	2
2607	Virginia		w4	48	37	1
2234	Lone Star		w6	45	44	2
555	Windsor Essex 
	Great Lakes		w6	42	48	2
204	SBPLI Long Island	w5	12	83	1

[Wenbin Li]

So, if 7 team goes to an outside regional and they all win, that means that the spots will go from 10 to 3 at MAR on teams who go to worlds just on ranking?

[scottandme]

Originally Posted by Wenbin Li

So, if 7 team goes to an outside regional and they all win, that means that the spots will go from 10 to 3 at MAR on teams who go to worlds just on ranking?

Yes.

[Jscout11]

Congratulations to Team 2607 on winning the Virginia Regional.

This means that 2607 will consume the first "points" spot from MAR, leaving 9 spots left.

[Hallry]

Another question. Let's say the three teams that win at Lehigh also qualify for STL outside of MAR. Are the three winning spots converted to become additional ranking-point spots for the next top ranked teams?

[scottandme]

Originally Posted by Hallry

Another question. Let's say the three teams that win at Lehigh also qualify for STL outside of MAR. Are the three winning spots converted to become additional ranking-point spots for the next top ranked teams?

Based on the old MAR/FiM rules (2012+2013), the MARCMP winner (and other "award") slots couldn't be passed down or inherited. So when 341 won in 2012, that slot was lost (qualified via HoF and via winning Boston Regional). Same applied to the CA/EI/RAS awards, though we never saw a team double qualify that way (or decline). Only the points based slots would pass over a team that was already qualified.

So assuming that stays the same, the question would be if winning an award slot at MAR CMP would trump a slot earned at a previous outside regional, and move the team from eating a "points" slot to the corresponding "award" slot. I would hope the answer is yes - "point" slots are awarded from top to bottom skipping over the MARCMP winners and award winners as they trickle down.

[AGPapa]

I just updated everything for Lenape, once again, let me know if you spot anything incorrect.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AizgHBYEeVnwdDJVeFBzWTduazNLV3I2Skw5dlh4a FE&usp=drive_web#gid=1

The median number of points for team who have competed two events is 55.5. Expect the cutoff to be slightly lower than this. Declines and a large number of 3rd event teams at BR should decrease the cutoff.

I'm not sure if the new points model did a good job sorting out the teams. Good teams like 2729, 2495, 708 and 1712 are under this 55 point cutoff. Hopefully they'll still qualify for MAR champs because they have good robots that deserve to be there. I'm not sure if the old points model would have done a better job; once BR ends I'll recalculate the rankings with last year's point systems to see the difference in who qualifies.

[Wayne C.]

Not that it matters overall but team 25 did win their first QF match so should have 5 more pts.

Just happy if we qualify....

Wc

[scottandme]

Originally Posted by Wayne C.

Not that it matters overall but team 25 did win their first QF match so should have 5 more pts.

Just happy if we qualify....

Wc

http://www3.usfirst.org/sites/defaul...ing_System.pdf

"5 points for every match won in which a Team’s robot participated,
only for the Alliance that wins the series"

That rule exists to account for replacement robots in elims.

[BandChick]

Thanks for keeping up with this, Scott! It's nice to check and see how things are going.

I noticed that 1089's QPs are wrong -- we won 6 qualifying matches yesterday, and should have 12 qualifying points, and 27 total. We're marked right now with having 18 QPs, and 33 total.

[AGPapa]

Originally Posted by BandChick

Thanks for keeping up with this, Scott! It's nice to check and see how things are going.

I noticed that 1089's QPs are wrong -- we won 6 qualifying matches yesterday, and should have 12 qualifying points, and 27 total. We're marked right now with having 18 QPs, and 33 total.

Thanks, sorry. I manually entered the data for the three teams who went to Lenape for their first event. I must have taken the overall record instead of their qualification record for those three teams. I'll fix it now.

EDIT: Actually your team was the only one with the issue. The other two teams didn't win any elimination matches so it didn't affect them.

[Wayne C.]

Originally Posted by scottandme

http://www3.usfirst.org/sites/defaul...ing_System.pdf

"5 points for every match won in which a Team’s robot participated,
only for the Alliance that wins the series"

That rule exists to account for replacement robots in elims.

My bad. Saw the points but not the win being necessary

Sorry

[Brandon_L]

Scott, is there a significance to the teams highlighted in green? MAR CMP mathematical lock or something?

[AGPapa]

Originally Posted by Brandon_L

Scott, is there a significance to the teams highlighted in green? MAR CMP mathematical lock or something?

The teams highlighted in light green are predicted to be over the cutoff, not a mathematical lock.

After reading you comment I implemented a way to find out if a team is a lock. It's based off of Brian Lucas's paper from last year. The teams who are a lock are now highlighted in dark green.