FRC Spyder 2014?

[Patrick Flynn]

Originally Posted by pyroslev

Used it at our event.

The prediction system needs, shall we say, A LOT of work. If you can figure out a way to tap into NI Parkway and watch that for team requests that would help. In one match, the winning alliance predicted all had serious issues that were in the Parkway system.

Originally Posted by pyroslev

Request for next year:

Improve the prediction system. (it was more entertaining than accurate)
Built in screenshot taker? (Bonus mostly)
Takes updates from NI Parkway. Help highlight a team's issues and may help the prediction system.

Get Rid of the Banner Ads.

Originally Posted by pyroslev

I can check with a NI rep and see if they can suggest a way to integrate it. I would like mostly cause it would improve prediction. In a match, it predicted Red Alliance to win. All three Red Alliance robots had issue in Parkway, including one team that's robot wasn't even built yet. So it's more of a bonus thing to help with the more advanced features.

Not sure if you have read a single post in this thread. Actually i'm sure you haven't. As explained in this thread which you should read before you post again, the predictions are just using OPR.

Getting rid of the banner ads? What harm do they do to you? I'm sure they would be glad to remove the ads after you fund the development of this app and pay for all the other expenses. Or are you suggesting that someone pays for this out of pocket so that you don't have to see an ad that is not even in the way?

Bashing something that someone donated their time to make and gives to you for free is totally not needed. If you think you can do better certainly do.

I love the features this app provides thanks to everyone that works on it!

[pyroslev]

Originally Posted by Patrick Flynn

Bashing something that someone donated their time to make and gives to you for free is totally not needed. If you think you can do better certainly do.

I love the features this app provides thanks to everyone that works on it!

I in no way bash this app nor the developer. After trying my hand at Android App development, I'll leave it to better minds. The methodology of the Feauture Creep is a shining example of what a good app evolving does. Honestly reminds me of how Mozilla Firefox creeped along the first few years.

Banners ads were blocked by another app. (But I would pay for it if needed)
Prediction system does work but just needs tweaking is all. Right a lot of time.
Integrating information from Parkway is a longshot but it would help to consolidate the power of the app, the same way OPR did this year. You could look at one app and see the stats and if a team's flagged for an issue that you could render help on. Just add more power the app's potential.

I do apologize if I offended anyone. Mike, it's a great bit of work. Always handy and must have. My rating was a 5 Star from Day one, which I cannot say the same for the Official FRC Game Manual App. If you want a Beta Tester for Older Android devices, let me know. I'm running Android 2.3.x.

[Mike Soukup]

Thanks pyroslev. The prediction screen, as was stated earlier by a few others, is mostly for entertainment. I'd rather stick to quantitative & mathematical models instead of adding in some subjective and unreliable data (e.g. I peeked at Parkway yesterday and saw that team 126 needed help finding the field; I doubt that was true).

I agree that the official FRC game manual app is pretty bad. It uses a cross-platform framework that doesn't follow the Android design guidelines; it's extremely tough to navigate. At least they got rid of the 5+ second splash screen on start-up that was there a few years ago. I downloaded the unofficial app because it's a lot better.

Take a look at the official VEX Toss Up app to see what a quality manual app looks like. Dave, Dave and I created that for VEX. It's hyperlinked, it filters as you type in the search bar, and it has clickable images.

Thanks for the offer for beta testing, but I have my own 2.3, 2.3, and 4.4 devices plus the emulator that I can test releases on. Besides, at the frequency I was putting out releases earlier in the year, the beta cycle would have been a few hours.

[Dave Flowerday]

The updated version of FRC Spyder for iOS has been approved by Apple and is available now in the App Store. This version adds OPR, DPR, and CCWM to the rankings page and also adds the OPR-based Match Prediction feature.

[nuclearnerd]

Mike / Dave

Can I add a (minor) feature request? Would it be possible to add stats to the teams from an event screen *before* the event starts? That is, can you incorporate the seeds, OPRs and whatnot from previous regionals? That would be useful for "pre-scouting" an event.

The other pony would be to include each team's robot images that are indexed on thebluealliance.com (what few there are). I'm a visual thinker, so I cannot keep team numbers straight in my head for the life of me

[XaulZan11]

Originally Posted by nuclearnerd

Can I add a (minor) feature request? Would it be possible to add stats to the teams from an event screen *before* the event starts? That is, can you incorporate the seeds, OPRs and whatnot from previous regionals? That would be useful for "pre-scouting" an event.

If possible, I think this would be really useful as well, especially for the championship coming up. It would be really nice to go to the division team list, click on a team and see what event(s) they previously played with records and seeds.

Before this app, I had to send a freshman down to write down the top 8 seeds and had to deal with paper copies of schedules to see when each team was playing. This app has made scouting at the event significantly easier. I'm also amazed how many parents on our team have and use the app. Thank you so much!

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by nuclearnerd

The other pony would be to include each team's robot images that are indexed on thebluealliance.com (what few there are). I'm a visual thinker, so I cannot keep team numbers straight in my head for the life of me

If you have an iPhone, FRC Tracker has a photo database. There are almost 1000 photos in it. You can also take a photo with the app and associate it with a team.

Back to Spyder, I like going up to people on the end of Friday as people huddle around the pit display either taking pictures or writing stuff down and telling them that there's an app for that.

[nuclearnerd]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

If you have an iPhone, FRC Tracker has a photo database. There are almost 1000 photos in it. You can also take a photo with the app and associate it with a team.

That's cool! Unfortunately I have an Android phone. I wonder if the FRC Tracker people would share their photo database with FRC Spyder and/or thebluealliance?

[TimN]

Any chance of making this app available on the Amazon App Store for the Kindle Fire HD?

[Mike Soukup]

Originally Posted by TimN

Any chance of making this app available on the Amazon App Store for the Kindle Fire HD?

Unfortunately none of us have Kindle devices, so we don't have a way to test it.

[dodar]

I dont know if its just my phone or if anyone else is having this problem, but Spyder doesnt update information anymore. The "loading" circle just constantly spins and I have to force stop the program to get it to stop.

EDIT: I uninstalled and then re-installed the program and now it updates perfectly.

[Dominick Ferone]

Do you think next year it would be possible to add,
Pit Map: so at a regional if everyone isn't in sequence there is an easy way to find a team then having to memorize where they are.(NYC is all a scrambled mess for pits)

Awards: so people could check what awards teams have won(with that maybe have it update you if a team you watch won an award.)

Live stream integration: Blue alliance won't always work on my phone to let me watch matches.

Team note tabs: when you walk to a team you can put a note tab next to them to later reference.(in pit scouting notes maybe and then be able to send them to each other. And to make notes on how well you played with them, or other important notes.)

Those are some ideas i had I don't know if other people have the same ideas or would like them integrated. I understand they may not be possible. Thank you guys for the great app i have been using for years now. It is the go to app i tell people to check out when they say they wanna keep an eye on us at competition.
Keep up the good work!

[jlmcmchl]

Originally Posted by Dominick Ferone

Do you think next year it would be possible to add,
Pit Map: so at a regional if everyone isn't in sequence there is an easy way to find a team then having to memorize where they are.(NYC is all a scrambled mess for pits)

Awards: so people could check what awards teams have won(with that maybe have it update you if a team you watch won an award.)

Live stream integration: Blue alliance won't always work on my phone to let me watch matches.

Team note tabs: when you walk to a team you can put a note tab next to them to later reference.(in pit scouting notes maybe and then be able to send them to each other. And to make notes on how well you played with them, or other important notes.)

Those are some ideas i had I don't know if other people have the same ideas or would like them integrated. I understand they may not be possible. Thank you guys for the great app i have been using for years now. It is the go to app i tell people to check out when they say they wanna keep an eye on us at competition.
Keep up the good work!

The feature creep is strong with this one.

More seriously, that's a lot of work for a FREE app, and multi-platform at that.

[Zach O]

I'm all for ideas, but uh... Spyder isn't magic.

Originally Posted by Dominick Ferone

Pit Map: so at a regional if everyone isn't in sequence there is an easy way to find a team then having to memorize where they are.(NYC is all a scrambled mess for pits)

The pit layouts are planned out by individuals at events, and that data isn't available online. Due to the difference in layouts between venues, it would be almost impossible to have a standard template and have people map them out manually.

[plnyyanks]

Originally Posted by Dominick Ferone

Live stream integration: Blue alliance won't always work on my phone to let me watch matches.

Spyder would have the same problem as your phone, for the most part. Your best bet usually, if TBA doesn't work, is to use the streaming service (Livestram, Ustream, twitch, etc) native app and watch from there.

Originally Posted by Dominick Ferone

Team note tabs: when you walk to a team you can put a note tab next to them to later reference.(in pit scouting notes maybe and then be able to send them to each other. And to make notes on how well you played with them, or other important notes.)

[shameless plug]
I actually wrote an app that does this for this season (Android only, I don't know iOS) that does just that. Take a look!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ks.frcnotebook