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Re: VexPro sprocket wear

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I'm confused. Where these on your competition robot at Bridgewater? Or your practice robot? Did you re-use these sprockets from last year?
OP mentioned using them at MAR Champs and offseasons, so I assume these started their lives in the beginning of the 2013 season.
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Re: VexPro sprocket wear

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OP mentioned using them at MAR Champs and offseasons, so I assume these started their lives in the beginning of the 2013 season.
I gathered that much, but was confused as to how they failed at an event this year. I'm assuming they must have been harvested from last year's robot, but I know better than to assume.
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Re: VexPro sprocket wear

We used some 34(?) tooth sprockets on our ANSI 25 chain drive last year, and I am not even sure much of the anodizing has been worn off, even after 2 regionals, TRR, and a hundred hours of demoing
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Re: VexPro sprocket wear

I'm guessing poor sprocket alignment? If the sprockets aren't in line with each other, you could get significant wear from the side plates of the chain rubbing against the side of the sprocket. That's about the only way I can think of that you'd get that kind of wear pattern on the sprocket. I assume that once the sprocket was worn thin enough the teeth sheared off and then the sprocket was replaced.
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Re: VexPro sprocket wear

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I'm guessing poor sprocket alignment? If the sprockets aren't in line with each other, you could get significant wear from the side plates of the chain rubbing against the side of the sprocket. That's about the only way I can think of that you'd get that kind of wear pattern on the sprocket. I assume that once the sprocket was worn thin enough the teeth sheared off and then the sprocket was replaced.
nah we abused them with improper tension and they began to wear excessively from chain skipping the teeth wore down quickly. after we replaced them we were sure to have the chain properly tensioned and lubricated in order to avoid the problem again
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Re: VexPro sprocket wear

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Were they way over tensioned or something?
Matt, still going to argue that the chains aren't too tight?

Sigh. I tried.

These sprockets are in no way faulty, we absolutely abused them beyond reasonable, with chain tension so high the chain actually made a "sproing" sound when plucked, no lubrication at all on dirty, used chain, and a very small diameter (15T) coming off the ball shifter (very high power transmission with about 90 degrees of wrap).

On Team 1676, the adult mentors advise and sometimes cajole, but we don't overrule a student decision (except for safety). Maybe there's some education that happened here. Finally.

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chain tension so high the chain actually made a "sproing" sound when plucked
Is there anything wrong with keeping chain a tiny bit loose?
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Is there anything wrong with keeping chain a tiny bit loose?
Cyclists sometimes call it track slack. A loose chain is a fast chain.
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Re: VexPro sprocket wear

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Matt, still going to argue that the chains aren't too tight?

Sigh. I tried.

These sprockets are in no way faulty, we absolutely abused them beyond reasonable, with chain tension so high the chain actually made a "sproing" sound when plucked, no lubrication at all on dirty, used chain, and a very small diameter (15T) coming off the ball shifter (very high power transmission with about 90 degrees of wrap).

On Team 1676, the adult mentors advise and sometimes cajole, but we don't overrule a student decision (except for safety). Maybe there's some education that happened here. Finally.

sheesh.

Truth.

The chain should move up and down a distance proportional to the length of the chain.
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I gathered that much, but was confused as to how they failed at an event this year. I'm assuming they must have been harvested from last year's robot, but I know better than to assume.
They were from last year and we reused them and during bridgewater them just wore out bad
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