cRIO 2015 : NI roboRIO

[Sunny Bat]

Originally Posted by Jefferson

I wouldn't trust anything you hear about pricing or availability unless it comes from NI or FIRST.

The FAQ in OP's link gives the price:

All FRC Teams will get a roboRIO in the Kit of Parts at Kick Off 2015. Teams can purchase a spare roboRIO starting in fall 2014 for <$450 (pricing not yet finalized).

I, personally, am scared to see how many teams will decide to plug the RoboRIO into the old PDB. It has the same connector as the FRC CRIO II, however it takes 12v instead of 24v. Old PDB+RoboRIO = Death.

[NotInControl]

Originally Posted by Sunny Bat

The FAQ in OP's link gives the price:



I, personally, am scared to see how many teams will decide to plug the RoboRIO into the old PDB. It has the same connector as the FRC CRIO II, however it takes 12v instead of 24v. Old PDB+RoboRIO = Death.

The connectors on the PD board are not the same, the connectors on the Rio are however. The current PD board has a 4-pin Combicon connector for cRIO power, while the 8-slot also uses the same 4-pin connector, the 4-slot uses a 2-pin Combicon connecor.

The new system uses a Wieldmuller push-in type connector on the PD Panel for cRIO power(and for CAN for that matter). This connector is built-in and simply allows you to insert stripped wire. A spring contact hold the wire in place.

The RoboRio still has the same 2-pin Combicon connector as the current 4-slot cRIOII for power.

While it is still possible to connect any voltage source to the RoboRio, including but not limited to the old PD board, it would be hard for teams to do this by mistake. If they do do this, it will not be because they were following any official instructions.

Hope this helps,
Kevin

[RufflesRidge]

Originally Posted by NotInControl

The new system doesn't use connectors between the PD board and RoboRio for power (or for CAN for that matter). Both sides have built in Weildmuller push-in connectors that simply allow you to insert stripped wire. A spring contact hold the wire in place.

The RoboRIO uses the same 2-pin connector as the 4-slot cRIO on the RIO side. It uses the Wiedmuller wire-to-board connector on the PD side.

[NotInControl]

Originally Posted by RufflesRidge

The RoboRIO uses the same 2-pin connector as the 4-slot cRIO on the RIO side. It uses the Wiedmuller wire-to-board connector on the PD side.

That is correct, I mis-typed that part. Thanks for catching it. I will update my post.

Any idea as to when the CAD for the new control system will be available? I'd like to start designing systems that use the new parts.

[protoserge]

Originally Posted by Andrew Lawrence

Any idea as to when the CAD for the new control system will be available? I'd like to start designing systems that use the new parts.

The case isn't finalized, but we have a photo of the hardware (0.25" grid size). I was pretty sure the board had dimensions in the NI documentation, but I could be mistaken.

We have additional photos here.

[alex.lew]

Will any of the alpha test teams be bringing a demo bot to CMP? Will NI have some sort of demonstration?

[Jefferson]

Originally Posted by electrian21

Will any of the alpha test teams be bringing a demo bot to CMP? Will NI have some sort of demonstration?

There should be something. Keep a look out for details.

[Tom Line]

Originally Posted by Jefferson

There should be something. Keep a look out for details.

I haven't heard anything from the alpha team side of it, but since we drive and haul a trailer I've got no problems bringing ours. Anyone know who at Champs to contact to verify it won't cause a problem (i.e. - having 2 robots there, and where to set it + a display up?). Assuming we make it to championships, of course.

In addition, the new control system seminar that NI will be putting on at the Michigan State Championships will go up on 1718's youtube channel so everyone can watch it.

[protoserge]

Originally Posted by Tom Line

I haven't heard anything from the alpha team side of it, but since we drive and haul a trailer I've got no problems bringing ours. Anyone know who at Champs to contact to verify it won't cause a problem (i.e. - having 2 robots there, and where to set it + a display up?). Assuming we make it to championships, of course.

In addition, the new control system seminar that NI will be putting on at the Michigan State Championships will go up on 1718's youtube channel so everyone can watch it.

Ask FIRST HQ by email. frcteams@usfirst.org. You absolutely will need HQ approval.

[cxcad]

Originally Posted by stinglikeabee

The case isn't finalized, but we have a photo of the hardware (0.25" grid size). I was pretty sure the board had dimensions in the NI documentation, but I could be mistaken.

We have additional photos here.

Is that a new PD-board? looks smaller than the current one

[jijiglobe]

In the official announcement video where they revealed the features on august 8th 2013, NI announced that they would give one free to every team in 2015 so we can assume that it will be KOP at least for one year after its release.

[crake]

Originally Posted by Sunny Bat

Old PDB+RoboRIO = Death.

Not really. You are technically above the rated input voltage but we took care to cover this as teams may accidentally do that.