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Robot Shipped!!! what do i do know?

Anyone else find them self saying this?

We shipped our robot yesterday and i found myself saying what do i do now?

robotics is life!

now i guess its back to work and have periodical meetings on wensday till competition


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So build another robot. There are plenty of competitions out there. Pick one and go for it.
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Re: Robot Shipped!!! what do i do know?

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Anyone else find them self saying this?

We shipped our robot yesterday and i found myself saying what do i do now?

robotics is life!

now i guess its back to work and have periodical meetings on wensday till competition


ttyl

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Our kids are busy making hundeds of buttons to give out at the competitions.
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i plan on finaly getting to play with the edubot kit. And there is always finishing up the controls and getting our decals put together.
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And there is always finishing up the controls
I thought it was illegal to work on the controls after the robot ships. I know it's been that way in the past. Can anyone confirm/deny?
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As stated in update number 15 16 or 14 you donthve to ship it with the robot you can use it to test with you EDU Bot and programming check those updares
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As stated in update number 15 16 or 14 you donthve to ship it with the robot you can use it to test with you EDU Bot and programming check those updares
Yeah, I'm aware of the update thanks... They do not say anything about modifying your control system, only that you're allowed to keep it. There is a difference between not having to ship it and being able to modify it. Please read the posts more carefully.
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by finishing up the controls i didn't mean actualy modifying the controls themselves i just need to affix some decals that label our buttons...we dont even have to have it since i am the arm operator and i designed it so i have it all in my head and can do it by feel now...its even something i could do at competition.
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Yeah, I'm aware of the update thanks... They do not say anything about modifying your control system, only that you're allowed to keep it. There is a difference between not having to ship it and being able to modify it. Please read the posts more carefully.
are you saying that there is a difference??? That would be like FIRST saying, "You can keep your robot and bring it with you to the first competition; but oh by the way, don't modify anything on it after 2-20-03, a whole month before you first competition, ok?
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That would be like FIRST saying, "You can keep your robot and bring it with you to the first competition; but oh by the way, don't modify anything on it after 2-20-03, a whole month before you first competition, ok?
I know you're just trying to be smart, but yeah that's exactly what I mean. I believe they've done that in the past with spares, saying that you don't have to ship them with your robot but they had to be manufactured during the build period.

According to the Jive forums, this year you're allowed to build spares at any time as long as they're identical. Do you think they're going to check every spare part you bring into the arena to make sure it's not an improved version? No. They are trusting each team to follow the rules. They have to. If there was a team who didn't care about the rules there are literally dozens of ways to cheat in this competition. For example, they weigh you in at the beginning of the event and (usually) that's it, right? There's nothing (other than your conscience) stopping you from adding more weight to the robot after you weigh in. Another example: a lot of teams are sponsored by colleges. It would be easy for a college student to pass him/herself off as a high school student in order to operate the robot. As far as I know they don't check IDs.

Anyway my point is that no, I don't find it surprising at all that they might allow you to keep your controls without allowing you to change them.
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wouldn't changing the program inside of it sort of be like modifying it also?
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wouldn't changing the program inside of it sort of be like modifying it also?
Well, of course you're talking about the RC not the OI here, so you can't actually change the program inside of it until you get there since it was shipped with your robot. You can of course rewrite the program in between. This is a fuzzy area that luckily FIRST has clarified by explicitly allowing programming changes after shipping.
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