2014 MAR Standings

[Link07]

According to this list team 56 is the only qualified team not currently registered to Champs. Does anybody know if they plan on attending?

The next team in would be Team 869.

Edit* Just saw 357 is registered. Does anybody know how they got in?

[Domenic Rodriguez]

Originally Posted by Link07

According to this list team 56 is the only qualified team not currently registered to Champs. Does anybody know if they plan on attending?

The next team in would be Team 869.

Team 869 tweeted this morning that they have been invited to Champs: https://twitter.com/869powercord/sta...79668344729601

[Link07]

Originally Posted by DomenicR

Team 869 tweeted this morning that they have been invited to Champs: https://twitter.com/869powercord/sta...79668344729601

Oh yes I completely forgot to check if 869 was registered

[AGPapa]

So all teams announced at MAR Champs are registered for St. Louis except for 56. Two new teams have registered, 869 and 357. If 56 declined their invitation then it would make sense for 869 to be invited. I'm not sure why 357 was invited, but I have two ideas.

1. Waitlist- Their's only room for a handful of teams on the waitlist this year, so the chances that 357 got in on this are pretty slim.

2. The wording of the "reverse wildcard" clause in the Standardized points system is "if a District Team does earn a slot at the FIRST Championship while attending a Regional event, that slot does count against the total Championship allocation the District is receiving for the season." This can be interpreted as allowing another points slot to be created if a HoF teams wins the Region Championship (which 341 did) and a team qualified outside of the region (which also happened). Their could actually be 8 point slots this year. The wording of this clause is very confusing and I hope FIRST publishes supplemental rules for the districts next year to prevent this confusion.

[Link07]

Originally Posted by AGPapa

Their could actually be 8 point slots this year. The wording of this clause is very confusing and I hope FIRST publishes supplemental rules for the districts next year to prevent this confusion.

For this explanation, team 75 would have had to decline their invite

[Steven Donow]

Originally Posted by Link07

For this explanation, team 75 would have had to decline their invite

I was told (unofficially) that 75 would have likely ended up declining their spot had they eventually gained one.

[AGPapa]

Originally Posted by Steven Donow

I was told (unofficially) that 75 would have likely ended up declining their spot had they eventually gained one.

Team 75 is now registered to attend the FIRST Championship.

I don't understand what's going on anymore. We are now sending two more teams than were announced at MAR Champs.

[Link07]

I was told 357 got in by waitlist.

[Kevin Phan]

I can say that we got in by waitlist, I am not sure of enough teams declining their invitation after champs. We were 3 slots away from qualifying on points though.

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by AGPapa

I don't understand what's going on anymore.... We are now sending two more teams than were announced at MAR Champs.

Phew, glad I'm not the only one

Originally Posted by AGPapa

Team 75 is now registered to attend the FIRST Championship.

But, huge congrats to the RoboRaiders! I couldn't think of a more deserving team; I was shocked that they didn't win E.I. or Chairman's at MAR Champs after being eligible for both. Best of luck in St. Louis! I always admire you guys.

[Hallry]

Sorry for the double-post, but to clear some things up:

1. According to this FRC Blog post,, "These allocated slots are guaranteed to the Districts. These slots will be made up of qualifying award winners from the District Championship (for example, the Chairman’s Award winners), along with any qualifying award winners among district teams who traveled to Regionals, plus the teams on the final District ranking list, as deep in the ranking list as the district needs to go to fill their allocation." So, no matter what, it sounds like MAR will send 21 teams. 3 Hall of Fame Teams + 18 unique other teams.

2. The blog post also says "Pre-qualified teams from a District do not count against their slot allocation. Districts are able to send to the FIRST Championship the number of unique teams allocated to them using the proportional representation model, plus their unique pre-qualified teams." Thus, since 341, a pre-qualified HoF team won MAR Champs, MAR was able to send another unique team via points.

3. It also says "As noted in the summary document, District teams earning FIRST Championship slots at Regionals do count against the District allocation. Even though a District team may earn their FIRST Championship slot at a Regional, they are still from the District and can be considered part of the District contingent to the Championship." Since 11 also won MAR Champs, I guess they took a Winner slot instread of taking a point slot. This means that the total point slot allocations, after 225, 2016, and 2067 took three away from the original 10, but 341 gave back one by winning Lehigh, is 8.

4. 1089, 222, 2180, 193, 56, 1640, and 484 were the next top 7th ranked teams in MAR. It was announced after MAR Champs that they would all get all get an invitation to St. Louis. Although many people expected there to only by 6 slots, the 7th slot was because MORT blackholed a winner spot instead of a points slot.

3. However, unrealized by most, since 341 also won MAR Champs, there were actually 8 point slots, as I mentioned in #2. 869 was the 8th next highest ranked team, so although it wasn't said at MAR Champs, they got the St. Louis slot that was revived by 341 winning, which they accepted.

4. 56 unfortunately declined their point slot to St. Louis, so it was passed onto the next top ranked team (ranked 9th), Team 75, who accepted it.

5. 357 seems to have registered for St. Louis via an official waitlist slot. Interestingly, I can't find any other teams that have done the same, though. It just so seems to have happened that they were the next top ranked team in MAR after 75.

But, I could be wrong.

[quad]

yes that is basically correct.

MAR website updated with FRC Divisions (including Teams 869 and 75 from Rankings and Team 357 off of the wait list)

Good Luck Teams

[AGPapa]

Another MAR team, 714, has signed up for the FIRST Championship.

[Hallry]

And, it now seems that Team 714, Panthera, from Newark, NJ, is now registered for St. Louis as well via the waitlist, and is on Galileo. That's 2 MAR teams that now qualified through the waitlist. Congrats, 714!

EDIT: Beat to it by Antonio. So, the MAR count at St. Louis is up to 23.