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Just a few comments. I have as well worn the stripes of a referee in other sports and know from first hand that the referees are not going to get every call right every time. And the expectation that the referees should know all the rules is preposterous. No matter how much training you get, no matter how many test you have to take your not going to remember all the rules. To 1410 not to de debbie downer but I do believe you were on the other end of things in Colorado, during semi finals. Specifically refereeing to match SF 2-2. The foul that was called on the other alliance was possession of the other alliances ball, when 4153 accidentally lowered their collector the wrong direction into 2996's robot. Not only was this a questionable call, but the foul was assessed as a technical foul, when the rule was changed to a regular foul, and that would have changed the outcome of the match. Not to take away what you guys did at colorado, you guys performed well, just some thoughts.
To clarify lgphoneeric's post, here is the video a few seconds before the foul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKetpYldI0Q#t=119

Whether or not it was intentional or consequential, this still would have lead to a tie because we were exactly 20pts behind before the foul.

Proof from the FMS Twitter: "TY E MC 16 RF 127 BF 157 RA 1987 1619 4153 BA 662 1410 2996 RFP 0 BFP 50 RHS 75 BHS 15 RTS 52 BTS 92"

If it was a tie, we would have won off the first tiebreaker. From the manual:
"In the case where the MATCH score of each ALLIANCE is equal, the tie is broken by awarding an extra point to the ALLIANCE with (in the following order):

1. highest number of FOUL points awarded (i.e. the ALLIANCE that played the cleaner MATCH)
"

We were not on the other side of what happened in Utah. In Utah, the head ref gave a re-play based off a condition that would not have changed the outcome of the match because the condition was the same for both alliances.
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