When will Divisions be released?

[qzrrbz]

Originally Posted by DampRobot

And kept the Curie Curse alive.

another explanation for 2010?

[Racer26]

The Curie curse is the ONLY explanation for 2010. (I know, I know, it was crappy luck that 2041 got stuck in the goal)

I was there. I watched it, and was absolutely gobsmacked by what I was seeing. Not to put 67/177/294 down, but 469/1114/2041 was all but unstoppable, going undefeated right up until they were eliminated in Einstein Finals. (1114 was undefeated all SEASON until Championship, losing Curie Q100 [intentional 6v0 loss against 111 to guarantee themselves #1 seed] and Einstein F1/F2) Brilliant strategy on the part of 67/177/294 to capitalize on the bad luck and park one of their robots blocking the other goal when 2041 got stuck. Karthik has always said that winning championship is mostly about being well positioned to take advantage of luck going your way.

If 1114 had played Q100 to win, they may have, but they ran the risk of a narrow loss, which would have allowed 111 to seed higher than them, and 469 was all but guaranteed to be the #1 pick.

[DampRobot]

Originally Posted by Racer26

The Curie curse is the ONLY explanation for 2010. (I know, I know, it was crappy luck that 2041 got stuck in the goal)

I was there. I watched it, and was absolutely gobsmacked by what I was seeing. Not to put 67/177/294 down, but 469/1114/2041 was all but unstoppable, going undefeated right up until they were eliminated in Einstein Finals. (1114 was undefeated all SEASON until Championship, losing Curie Q100 [intentional 6v0 loss against 111 to guarantee themselves #1 seed] and Einstein F1/F2) Brilliant strategy on the part of 67/177/294 to capitalize on the bad luck and park one of their robots blocking the other goal when 2041 got stuck. Karthik has always said that winning championship is mostly about being well positioned to take advantage of luck going your way.

If 1114 had played Q100 to win, they may have, but they ran the risk of a narrow loss, which would have allowed 111 to seed higher than them, and 469 was all but guaranteed to be the #1 pick.

Personally, I belief that getting 2041 stuck in the goal was a brilliant strategy on 294's part. But the Curie Curse works too.

[BrennanB]

Originally Posted by DampRobot

Personally, I belief that getting 2041 stuck in the goal was a brilliant strategy on 294's part. But the Curie Curse works too.

Pretty sure 2041 got stuck in auton. I could be wrong though...

[kaliken]

So to help everybody's memory in that finals.. As i was there too...basically we knew it would be a dog fight with the 469 cycle with 1114 putting in misses. Adding 2041 to play counter defense made our life difficult. the goal was not to react to the cycle but to force the cycle direction. This allowed us to clear enough balls to enable our alliance to catch up. Obviously it worked as we won match one...Winning match two we took lessons we learned from our regional win, as we were always looking for a robot to pin in the goal. So you will see we took the opportunity to intentionally push 2041 deeper into the goal after the auto period. Then blocking the other goal made the best sense. Luck or curse you can believe what you want.

[Adam Freeman]

Originally Posted by Racer26

The Curie curse is the ONLY explanation for 2010. (I know, I know, it was crappy luck that 2041 got stuck in the goal)

I was there. I watched it, and was absolutely gobsmacked by what I was seeing. Not to put 67/177/294 down, but 469/1114/2041 was all but unstoppable, going undefeated right up until they were eliminated in Einstein Finals.

I seem to remember them only getting stuck in the goal in one match. I guess we didn't beat them straightup the other match...

The ONLY explanation is that we were better in those two matches!

[PriyankP]

Anyone know of a way to get the schedule of events in a CSV format (other than doing it manually)?

[lucas.alvarez96]

You could use the TBA API and save the necessary data as CSV...Python has support for requests, JSON and CSV, so you could check those modules out

[cadandcookies]

Originally Posted by Adam Freeman

I seem to remember them only getting stuck in the goal in one match. I guess we didn't beat them straightup the other match...

The ONLY explanation is that we were better in those two matches!

Because we all know that 67, 294, and 177 never build competitive robots, I mean they only have what, 60 blue banners between them?

[Basel A]

Originally Posted by Adam Freeman

I seem to remember them only getting stuck in the goal in one match. I guess we didn't beat them straightup the other match...

The ONLY explanation is that we were better in those two matches!

I hate to quote you to you, Adam, but your tone sounds a bit different a few years later:

Originally Posted by Adam Freeman

With regards to the final matches....just because we won the first two matches, doesn't mean that 1114, 469, and 2041 would not have been able to beat us if we kept playing. We were very fortunate in the last match that 2041 was stuck in the goal for half the match.

1114 was a scoring machine. 469 has a robot design that will go down in history as one of the most awesome designs ever. Not to mention both are great teams with awesome strategists. Given more time (one more match?), they would have figured out how to win. Then we would have had to adjust to those changes.

[snip]

I'd like to say both alliances were evenly matched, but I'm not sure I can say that. I have been trying to figure out how we defeated them for 5 days now, and there isn't one thing that really jumps out at me. I think we suprised them in the first match and had some luck in the second one. After that it was over.

Two matches is not a lot. I don't think it's ridiculous to suggest that luck COULD have tipped the balance of the series (though the assertion that it MUST have been luck doesn't hold water).

[PriyankP]

Originally Posted by lucas.alvarez96

You could use the TBA API and save the necessary data as CSV...Python has support for requests, JSON and CSV, so you could check those modules out

Thank you!!

[themccannman]

Originally Posted by Basel A

I hate to quote you to you, Adam, but your tone sounds a bit different a few years later:



Two matches is not a lot. I don't think it's ridiculous to suggest that luck COULD have tipped the balance of the series (though the assertion that it MUST have been luck doesn't hold water).

I think adam dropped this on his way out > /s

[waialua359]

I wanted to comment on the 2010 World Finals matches as a team that played front Bot at IRI with 469 and 330 and 399.
We had to play countless HOF, former WC, and Powerhouse teams on the way to barely winning IRI that year.
Playing the front is not as easy as it would seem.
Having to score soccer balls, maneuver around a defender, box out a defender in order to keep balls cycled into goals, staying out of the way of a cycled ball, drive and steer with only a 1 CIM/1 FP AM Planetary setup per transmission was really tough.
I believe our record in elims was 6-2-1, having to score at least 20 balls in some matches just to barely win.

Off the top of my head, we played against 1086,1114,2056,1625,67,148, 910, 343, etc.

[Don Wright]

Originally Posted by waialua359

I wanted to comment on the 2010 World Finals matches as a team that played front Bot at IRI with 469 and 330 and 399.
We had to play countless HOF, former WC, and Powerhouse teams on the way to barely winning IRI that year.
Playing the front is not as easy as it would seem.
Having to score soccer balls, maneuver around a defender, box out a defender in order to keep balls cycled into goals, staying out of the way of a cycled ball, drive and steer with only a 1 CIM/1 FP AM Planetary setup per transmission was really tough.
I believe our record in elims was 6-2-1, having to score at least 20 balls in some matches just to barely win.

Off the top of my head, we played against 1086,1114,2056,1625,67,148, 910, 343, etc.

Man...that was an amazingly fun and difficult run... I still have the videos online...

Q1.1
Q1.2
SF1.1
SF1.2
SF1.3
F1
F2
F3
F4

I think it felt even better after the disappointment from Einstein.

[waialua359]

Originally Posted by Don Wright

Man...that was an amazingly fun and difficult run... I still have the videos online...

Q1.1
Q1.2
SF1.1
SF1.2
SF1.3
F1
F2
F3
F4

I think it felt even better after the disappointment from Einstein.

Thanks for posting these.
It was however painful to watch our limpy robot reaching the finals. Our kicker broke in the finals so everything had to be pushed in, our auto mode was messed up with no time to fix. I now remember trying to sit out and bring in 399. Except 330 said they were broke completely, and instead they sat out.
And yes, I remember Paul yelling at people on the mezzanine above warning them about cheating, pointing the direction that the ball would fall from your robot.