When will Divisions be released?

[Basel A]

Threw together a quick PDF of divisional team oprs. Archimedes does look the weakest. Newton probably the strongest at the top end, with Galileo the deepest.

[jlmcmchl]

Did a graph for each division based on Team's OPR. Uses Ed Law's OPR Data.

Archimedes & Curie
Galileo & Newton

Link to excel sheet: World OPR By Division

[tstew]

All of the divisions on one graph:

[JVN]

Can you do this same OPR graph for the top 32 teams in each division?

[Aren_Hill]

Originally Posted by tstew

All of the divisions on one graph:

Hey Timothy....whats the X-axis....

[plnyyanks]

Originally Posted by Aren_Hill

Hey Timothy....whats the X-axis....

Always label your axes, it could make a huge difference...

[thatismytruck]

Curious about the x axis also; and I would like to know what OPR is.


I hate acronyms. I never recall what they are.

[plnyyanks]

Originally Posted by thatismytruck

and I would like to know what OPR is.

Offensive Power Rating

And the maths

[thatismytruck]

Thank you!

If I read you right OPR focuses on scoring when the main point is to assist. How do you factor in all the assists and the last team scoring the goal?

If I missed something I apologize.

[Abhishek R]

Originally Posted by thatismytruck

Thank you!

If I read you right OPR focuses on scoring when the main point is to assist. How do you factor in all the assists and the last team scoring the goal?

If I missed something I apologize.

OPR is basically a measure of how much a team is likely to contribute to an alliance's score as a whole. This accounts for all ways of scoring, including assist, truss, catch, and scoring. It does not differentiate between ways of getting points, so you could have two robots, each with an OPR of 100, but maybe one racks up a 100 assist points in a match, while another trusses and then scores a 100 points.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Abhishek R

This accounts for all ways of scoring, including assist, truss, catch, and scoring.

I think it would be more accurate to say that OPR accounts for *no* way of scoring. OPR only compares total points scored to the teams in the match. OPR can't be used this year to accurately approximate the actual number of points scored by a robot in a match, due to the inseparable nature of this game and cooperative scoring. Whether or not it's a useful approximation of match contribution is the subject of much debate

[thatismytruck]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

I think it would be more accurate to say that OPR accounts for *no* way of scoring. OPR only compares total points scored to the teams in the match. OPR can't be used this year to accurately approximate the actual number of points scored by a robot in a match, due to the inseparable nature of this game and cooperative scoring. Whether or not it's a useful approximation of match contribution is the subject of much debate

This is what threw me when looking at the equations for OPR. It seemed to me the game is too integrated to get a number for each team.

[Abhishek R]

Originally Posted by thatismytruck

This is what threw me when looking at the equations for OPR. It seemed to me the game is too integrated to get a number for each team.

Right, technically you aren't getting any numbers on the team, so it literally does not account for anything the team actually does because it is a projected statistic based off of the alliance score. So you could very well have a team who had favorable alliance partners all throughout qualifications, which results in an inflated OPR. This actually happens more often than you may think.

[thatismytruck]

Originally Posted by Abhishek R

Right, technically you aren't getting any numbers on the team, so it literally does not account for anything the team actually does because it is a projected statistic based off of the alliance score. So you could very well have a team who had favorable alliance partners all throughout qualifications, which results in an inflated OPR. This actually happens more often than you may think.

Having watched a bunch, it happens a LOT! Which is why I believe OPR (having just tonight been exposed to it) is not a great way to sort the teams this year. I'm not sure my preferred way to rank is better, but I would rank by assist points.

[tstew]

Originally Posted by JVN

Can you do this same OPR graph for the top 32 teams in each division?

Originally Posted by Aren_Hill

Hey Timothy....whats the X-axis....

It's the team's rank based on opr. I updated the graph.