Einstein 2014

[MooreteP]

Has anybody interested in this thread taken a class on statistics?

To attempt a prediction of the outcomes of the divisions is an exercise in futility.

Too much data and random choices involved.
(Remember, these are high school students scouting and speculating. It's actually kind of cool, creative, and quite random.)

Two ideas:
- Not about the Robot.
- Einstein will be awesome this year (Goalie Bots!).

That being said, here is my exercise in futility:
Archimedes: 2056, 195, 319
Curie: 118, 4334, 4055
Galileo: 67, 558, 2337
Newton: 1114,16, 58

Haz Warren Buffett my 1 billion dollars?

The fourth picks will be .....Goalie Bots! With Cheesy Vision!

No scores over 200 on Einstein.
Remember, you heard it here FIRST

[bkahl]

Originally Posted by MooreteP

That being said, here is my exercise in futility:
Archimedes: 2056, 195, 319
Curie: 118, 4334, 4055
Galileo: 67, 558, 2337
Newton: 1114,16, 58

Love the New England twist!

[RonnieS]

So I heard something from my mentor that had me wondering. I was told that when you pick that 4th robot, they are a solid and active part of the alliance. He said that that "4th" bot can come in anytime during any of your matches as long as you tell the ref and you could then also bring your "3rd" bot back in the next match or flip flop for whatever combination best suits for the next match. Is this true?
Thanks.

[tim-tim]

Originally Posted by Ronnie314

So I heard something from my mentor that had me wondering. I was told that when you pick that 4th robot, they are a solid and active part of the alliance. He said that that "4th" bot can come in anytime during any of your matches as long as you tell the ref and you could then also bring your "3rd" bot back in the next match or flip flop for whatever combination best suits for the next match. Is this true?
Thanks.

Yes, per 5.6.1

[Jade Z]

Originally Posted by Ronnie314

So I heard something from my mentor that had me wondering. I was told that when you pick that 4th robot, they are a solid and active part of the alliance. He said that that "4th" bot can come in anytime during any of your matches as long as you tell the ref and you could then also bring your "3rd" bot back in the next match or flip flop for whatever combination best suits for the next match. Is this true?
Thanks.

Yes, teams are swappable constantly. This not only allows for a backup that can be taken back out, but allows for a timeout for, say, a mechanum when you're about to go up against strong defense, or putting in an extra defender against a catching robot, etc.

Excellent idea, in my opinion. Allows for easier changing of strategy to suit the next match.

[Basel A]

Alright, I'm going to make my Einstein predictions the same way I make my FRCTop25 votes

Division: Alliance# Teams
Archimedes: #3 27, 33, 2137, 2834 (27-33 mandatory)
Curie: #3 1718, 469, 4362, 74
Galileo: #2 2337, 67, 862, 857 (67 will accept this time)
Newton: #8 3539, 314, 2054, 910 (how any of these teams could be a 3rd pick is beyond me)

Curie beats Archimedes
Newton beats Galileo

Newton beats Curie

[LoweIQ]

Originally Posted by Basel A

Alright, I'm going to make my Einstein predictions the same way I make my FRCTop25 votes...

No regional bias, right?

Just for fun, here's my guess: All 8th Alliances!
Archimedes: 2590, 3467, 2959, 781
Curie: 3476, 177, 68, 2648
Galileo: 973, 3683, 3098, 193
Newton: 910, 330, 846, 2415

Curie beat Archimedes, Galileo beats Newton, Galileo beats Curie.

Disclaimer: I realize a lot of these picks won't be around for the 8th alliance, or even that round of selections. No offense is meant by these predictions, all 16 of these teams are top contenders in their respective division.

[Yipyapper]

Originally Posted by LoweIQ

No regional bias, right?

Just for fun, here's my guess: All 8th Alliances!
Archimedes: 2590, 3467, 2959, 781
Curie: 3476, 177, 68, 2648
Galileo: 973, 3683, 3098, 193
Newton: 910, 330, 846, 2415

Curie beat Archimedes, Galileo beats Newton, Galileo beats Curie.

Disclaimer: I realize a lot of these picks won't be around for the 8th alliance.

4th pick? Ouch.

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by Yipyapper

4th pick? Ouch.

You know what they call the graduate with the lowest GPA in med school? Doctor.

You know what they call the fourth robot in the alliance that wins Einstein? Champion.

[FoleyEngineer]

Originally Posted by LoweIQ

Just for fun, here's my guess: All 8th Alliances!
Archimedes: 2590, 3467, 2959, 781
Curie: 3476, 177, 68, 2648
Galileo: 973, 3683, 3098, 193
Newton: 910, 330, 846, 2415

I have to give some major props to LoweIQ for your prediction on Newton! We ended up 3rd alliance captain and picked 846, 330, and 1507. You got them all right except the 4th team member. Wow!

[GKrotkov]

Originally Posted by MooreteP

The fourth picks will be .....Goalie Bots! With Cheesy Vision!
FIRST

Truth.

I haven't actually seen a goalie bot in action at all, but this is something I would love to see (esp. w/cheesy vision). Goalie zones are there for a reason, and this could seriously damage a team's ability to score in auto. In teleop, low goals and missed triple assists negate the usefulness of the goalie, but chasing down a blocked auto ball could be the death of an alliance.

Has anyone seen a goalie bot in action, or better yet, has a video of it?

[magnets]

A good goalie bot could change the outcome of a match, but there aren't too many good goalie bots out there.

I also think we'll see considerably lower scores and lots of upsets than usual because of the crazy defense. The teams that win their divisions will be ones where all three members of the alliance play defense when they don't have the ball.

I'm curious to see what teams do with the 4th member of the alliance. If I'm understanding the rules correctly, you could be a world champion, without ever playing in an elimination match.

[cmrnpizzo14]

Originally Posted by GKrotkov

Truth.

I haven't actually seen a goalie bot in action at all, but this is something I would love to see (esp. w/cheesy vision). Goalie zones are there for a reason, and this could seriously damage a team's ability to score in auto. In teleop, low goals and missed triple assists negate the usefulness of the goalie, but chasing down a blocked auto ball could be the death of an alliance.

Has anyone seen a goalie bot in action, or better yet, has a video of it?

Check out 973 for red in Auton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=819idQnXwxw#t=18

I expect to see at least someone like this on Einstein or at least as a prominent force in division elims. Too many multi-ball autons are susceptible to this strategy.

[AllenGregoryIV]

Originally Posted by GKrotkov

Truth.

Has anyone seen a goalie bot in action, or better yet, has a video of it?

We got CheesyVision working over the weekend. we'll see how it plays out.

1323 almost gets the block here.

[Joe195]

Originally Posted by GKrotkov

Truth.

I haven't actually seen a goalie bot in action at all, but this is something I would love to see (esp. w/cheesy vision). Goalie zones are there for a reason, and this could seriously damage a team's ability to score in auto. In teleop, low goals and missed triple assists negate the usefulness of the goalie, but chasing down a blocked auto ball could be the death of an alliance.

Has anyone seen a goalie bot in action, or better yet, has a video of it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUDUTQLZ5QE

4048 Blocked two shots at NE Champs