Is it okay to "throw" a match that will be replayed?

[magnets]

Just to clarify, we aren't throwing the match. We will still try our absolute hardest and will set winning as our top priority when we know there's a chance the match will count. We aren't trying to bring down our alliance partners or lower their ranking, we still want to win, we just don't want to play the same match again and again when we know it won't count. Our alliance partners will be informed of our strategy, and if they have any objections, or they don't think that we should do it, then we won't.

[Pault]

Originally Posted by magnets

Just to clarify, we aren't throwing the match. We will still try our absolute hardest and will set winning as our top priority when we know there's a chance the match will count. We aren't trying to bring down our alliance partners or lower their ranking, we still want to win, we just don't want to play the same match again and again when we know it won't count. Our alliance partners will be informed of our strategy, and if they have any objections, or they don't think that we should do it, then we won't.

If you really follow everything that you said in this post, than I can't fault you for it. Mainly, if your alliance partners don't have a problem with it, neither do I.

My 2 cents.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Pault

If you really follow everything that you said in this post, than I can't fault you for it. Mainly, if your alliance partners don't have a problem with it, neither do I.

Ditto.

My guess on that person who was chewing you out was that 1) you were dealing with a spectator who didn't understand some things and 2) said person didn't understand that some things are more important than going all out in a meaningless match. FYI, if you have that happen again, there's incident report forms at the Pit Admin--use as needed.

[Gregor]

It's not worth the risk. Not all field faults result in a replay, it's dependant on if the head referee (and the FTA to an extent) feels like the replay affected the outcome of the match. This is important, because their interpretation could very well be different than yours, especially since they don't have to make the decision on the spot (i.e. during the match).

If your robot can't survive one more match, you will not make it through eliminations in Aerial Assault. Play it to win, because it's not worth the risk, especially to your alliance partners.

Not sure what team you're on, but if we're in a match together I'd object it.

[peirvine]

Originally Posted by Gregor

It's not worth the risk. Not all field faults result in a replay, it's dependant on if the head referee (and the FTA to an extent) feels like the replay affected the outcome of the match. This is important, because their interpretation could very well be different than yours, especially since they don't have to make the decision on the spot (i.e. during the match).

If your robot can't survive one more match, you will not make it through eliminations in Aerial Assault. Play it to win, because it's not worth the risk, especially to your alliance partners.

Not sure what team you're on, but if we're in a match together I'd object it.

I agree 100%.
Never throw (or "throw") a match, your friends need you to play because the outcome of the match effects them too.

[Pault]

Originally Posted by peirvine

I agree 100%.
Never throw (or "throw") a match, your friends need you to play because the outcome of the match effects them too.

Generally, I would agree; every team should play to win all their matches.

This situation is a bit more complicated than that, though. If magnets' team played one match with all that they have, it might mean that they won't be able to do so during a later match with other alliance partners. Furthermore, if the match is replayed, then they could be letting down the exact same alliance partners and end up losing that same qualification match if their shooter broke before the replay. It is kind of a numbers game: what are the chances that this match will be replayed, what are the chances that we will lose if we hold back, how is playing this match to my fullest going to affect the life expectancy of my shooter? In the heat of a 150 second match, this team and it's alliance partners are going to have to evaluate these question and determine what is best for the long-term success of Magnet's team.

My advice to magnets: don't be an idiot; play to win all your matches, not just the one in front of you.

[Caleb Sykes]

Originally Posted by magnets

Just to clarify, we aren't throwing the match.

Then you certainly chose an interesting title for this thread.

[AGPapa]

Originally Posted by inkling16

Then you certainly chose an interesting title for this thread.

Throw was in quotes.

[FrankJ]

The only matches that you are sure to replay are the ones that end with a foghorn.

Anyway that sounded like a reasonable strategic decision. In that situation I would make sure my alliance partners understood what was happening. They are the only ones you really owe an explanation to. Of scouts will be judging your game play as well.