Starting configuration in the Goalie Zone

[Boltman]

Originally Posted by BigJ

It may be placed anywhere, but you have to declare a final position, after which offensive (non-goalie zone) bots get to pick positions.

Ok thanks.

[BigJ]

And just to cite a rule:

Originally Posted by G4

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TEAMS positioning ROBOTS in the white ZONE have precedence over opponents placing ROBOTS in the GOALIE ZONE.

Which was later clarified in the Q&A to be like I stated (goalies must place first, then white-zone bots may (re-)position)

[EricH]

Originally Posted by BigJ

Which was later clarified in the Q&A to be like I stated (goalies must place first, then white-zone bots may (re-)position)

We actually had an issue with that in L.A.--one of the teams was playing goalie, but they positioned, their opponents positioned, then the goalie team repositioned, and then their opponents repositioned.... After a couple of rounds of that, one of the refs went over and kept them from moving the robot again.

Basically, once you've placed, your opponents can adjust--but if you adjust again, so can they. Do it too often, and get called for delaying the match.

[Boltman]

They made us change after initial practice rounds, we now have to automate movement during autonomous rather than just being a static blocker pre-placed.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Boltman

They made us change after initial practice rounds, we now have to automate movement during autonomous rather than just being a static blocker pre-placed.

Sorry, but there is nothing in the rules that says that you have to MOVE--in any way, shape, or form--during automode. You can, in fact, just sit there, regardless of where you are on the field--it's called the Mars Rock automode (you sit there and wait for Opportunity to come along). Whoever made you change that can go read the rulebook again--standard penalty for not knowin' the rules.

[Boltman]

Originally Posted by EricH

Sorry, but there is nothing in the rules that says that you have to MOVE--in any way, shape, or form--during automode. You can, in fact, just sit there, regardless of where you are on the field--it's called the Mars Rock automode (you sit there and wait for Opportunity to come along). Whoever made you change that can go read the rulebook again--standard penalty for not knowin' the rules.

We did movement to gain a "surprise" position advantage otherwise the offensive bots know where we will be at the beginning of autonomous. So perhaps I misspoke... they made us stop pre-placing the bot "Mars rock style" after offense set up.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Boltman

Well we did it to gain a "surprise" position advantage otherwise the offensive bots know where we will be at the beginning of autonomous.

True, true. I was thinking it was because someone thought sitting still was illegal. You could always use reverse psychology and move during practice... and then sit still during a real match or two!

[Boltman]

Originally Posted by EricH

True, true. I was thinking it was because someone thought sitting still was illegal. You could always use reverse psychology and move during practice... and then sit still during a real match or two!

I doubt we'll get in practice but we'll see... good idea

[Bacon&Waffles]

Just as a thought is there are rule saying that you can't use an opponent's hot goal to move to their hot goal to block balls? I think that something like this would be able to really mess up the auton of many great robots.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Bacon&Waffles

Just as a thought is there are rule saying that you can't use an opponent's hot goal to move to their hot goal to block balls? I think that something like this would be able to really mess up the auton of many great robots.

Nope, no rule at all on that.

Note, however, that you'll still have to move over there...

[Bacon&Waffles]

Well so long as you have a really fast robot you might have a chance because if you block the first hot goal (or start there) then once the hot goal switches you will already know that it is hot before the other robot knows. Buuuut that would be insanely hard. Either way it would be interesting to take a look at!

[FrankJ]

You could also adapt the cheesy poof hot goal detection method to goalie movement

[cgmv123]

Originally Posted by FrankJ

You could also adapt the cheesy poof hot goal detection method to goalie movement

If CheesyVision is used against 254 to kill their auto, the world will end!

[Boltman]

Originally Posted by cgmv123

If CheesyVision is used against 254 to kill their auto, the world will end!

Yup, cheesy vision is VERY interesting

[FrankJ]

Originally Posted by cgmv123

If CheesyVision is used against 254 to kill their auto, the world will end!

Yes I have caused that many times. But somebody keeps recreating it.