Video Stealing

[cavalier]

Sorry to revive this thread however Team 1678 has just realized that our webcast archives were added to WatchFirstNow. The match videos we posted to our YouTube channel from Inland Empire and Sacramento Regionals were reuploaded on the WFN site.

Our students put in significant effort to effort to develop our live streaming system, uploading match videos to YouTube, and adding them to The Blue Alliance. Seeing them added to the WatchFirstNow website without our permission and without attribution is very troubling.

We are concerned with the loss of views and lack of recognition for the content that we put significant effort into creating and sharing with the FIRST community. We would like to our footage removed from the site. Who can we contact to request this?

[Brandon_L]

Originally Posted by Bochek

I have responded to 2 emails from him. I have asked for proof of ownership of the YouTube account. I have not heard back yet. I will send him a PM tonight.

I found that little paragraph particularly disturbing. You need proof that you don't own something?

Originally Posted by Bochek

If people have specific issues. Lets come up with ideas to solve them instead of just complaining.

Its really quite simple, you ask before you take. You're doing more damage to the community then you are doing good.

[dubiousSwain]

Originally Posted by Duncan Macdonald

I'm not qualified for the legal discussion but I like the benefits of a stable video archive. Teams don't always last and don't always manage the transition of accounts. (There's an old 610 channel with a video of someone tripping that we can't remove for example)

The only reason we have the 1996 championship is because someone recorded it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8N6lnle1fc Is this ok?

Our team has the same problem with maintaining our old accounts. Its was a nightmare for me to find the login for our FTP account to our website, let alone our other accounts.

[pfreivald]

As an author, I see my work pirated online all the time. Even items I have on Amazon for free, even my editing blog (which of course anyone can read)--used without my permission elsewhere.

Even with attribution, taking this work (which is copyrighted by virtue of the fact that I created it under US law) and putting it elsewhere throws off all kinds of metrics from Amazon rankings to blog page views--which hurts my publicity and place in search engine algorithms.

The same is true of a YouTube video; and it doesn't really matter whether or not any harm was intended, or whether or not you believe it's significant, or what-have-you.

A general rule of life is to not use other peoples' work without their permission.

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by cavalier

Sorry to revive this thread however Team 1678 has just realized that our webcast archives were added to WatchFirstNow. The match videos we posted to our YouTube channel from Inland Empire and Sacramento Regionals were reuploaded on the WFN site.

Reese, it's ironic how close our team numbers are. I sent you a PM detailing my process of contacting WatchFIRSTNow.

Originally Posted by dubiousSwain

Our team has the same problem with maintaining our old accounts. Its was a nightmare for me to find the login for our FTP account to our website, let alone our other accounts.

I would suggest creating an online Google Doc with the usernames and passwords for your team's social networking accounts, with viewing/editing access given to trustworthy people. That is how 1676 keeps track of our log-in information for our Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, and and Skype accounts. For example, share the document with both mentors and students that are in leadership, and then when the students graduate, they or the mentors can pass on the document to the next batch of student leaders.

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by pfreivald

As an author, I see my work pirated online all the time. Even items I have on Amazon for free, even my editing blog (which of course anyone can read)--used without my permission elsewhere.

Even with attribution, taking this work (which is copyrighted by virtue of the fact that I created it under US law) and putting it elsewhere throws off all kinds of metrics from Amazon rankings to blog page views--which hurts my publicity and place in search engine algorithms.

The same is true of a YouTube video; and it doesn't really matter whether or not any harm was intended, or whether or not you believe it's significant, or what-have-you.

A general rule of life is to not use other peoples' work without their permission.

But it's for educational purposes!!!!!!!1

(cue the heavy dripping sarcasm)

[pfreivald]

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber

But it's for educational purposes!!!!!!!1

(cue the heavy dripping sarcasm)

Fun part: My blog is entirely education in nature. :/