2014 Championship live thoughts & reactions

[Jacob Bendicksen]

27 adds an extra assist to each cycle by receiving the ball from a human player and immediately giving it back. It's so successful that other teams have started emulating it.

[stingray27]

Originally Posted by TheCascadeKid

27 adds an extra assist to each cycle by receiving the ball from a human player and immediately giving it back. It's so successful that other teams have started emulating it.

The origin came from team 2851, Crevolution. Its not the same strategy, but that is where the original idea came from

[Navid Shafa]

Originally Posted by TheCascadeKid

27 adds an extra assist to each cycle by receiving the ball from a human player and immediately giving it back. It's so successful that other teams have started emulating it.

It was used a bit at the MAR Championship, and I just watched it happen on Newton now. It certainly surprised me, these teams are definitely using their brains.

[PVCpirate]

Team 16 is an extremely good finisher. Their auto is great, and their drivers are experts with the swerve drive, getting around defenders and scoring with ease. They are certainly one of the top teams and I'm sure we'll see them late tomorrow afternoon.

[Navid Shafa]

Originally Posted by PVCpirate

Team 16 is an extremely good finisher. Their auto is great, and their drivers are experts with the swerve drive, getting around defenders and scoring with ease. They are certainly one of the top teams and I'm sure we'll see them late tomorrow afternoon.

There are plenty of strong teams on Newton, but their driving definitely puts them a step ahead of most teams. With many strong teams that will likely not seed in the top 8 tomorrow, 16 might not have an easy fight to make it out of divisions.

[Navid Shafa]

Even though matches are done for the day, the FMS data is not up to date on most divisions...

Archimedes: Match Results and Rankings display current as of Match 120.

Curie: The only division that is truly current, maybe the curse is spreading.

Galileo: Match results only current to 148, Rankings apparently say 150.

Newton Rankings: Matches and Rankings say current as of Match 144.

*Sigh*

[kenavt]

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa

Even though matches are done for the day, the FMS data is not up to date on most divisions...

Archimedes: Match Results and Rankings display current as of Match 120.

Curie: The only division that is truly current, maybe the curse is spreading.

Galileo: Match results only current to 148, Rankings apparently say 150.

Newton Rankings: Matches and Rankings say current as of Match 144.

*Sigh*

Doesn't help that Archimedes has been showing 6-22 teams for at least half an hour either...

[CTbiker105]

I saw 33 utilizing a killer strategy today, no pun intended. The ball never touched the ground, all 3 robots were stationary the majority of the time, and it was a 3-assist cycle every time.

33 would inbound, truss shot it to the HP, HP would inbound it to a bot, the bot would shoot it horizontally across the field to the other HP, that HP would inbound it to the third bot, who would finish the cycle with a high shot.

Very impressive to watch.

[cmrnpizzo14]

Originally Posted by CTbiker105

I saw 33 utilizing a killer strategy today, no pun intended. The ball never touched the ground, all 3 robots were stationary the majority of the time, and it was a 3-assist cycle every time.

33 would inbound, truss shot it to the HP, HP would inbound it to a bot, the bot would shoot it horizontally across the field to the other HP, that HP would inbound it to the third bot, who would finish the cycle with a high shot.

Very impressive to watch.

Video?!?

[micro]

Originally Posted by CTbiker105

I saw 33 utilizing a killer strategy today, no pun intended. The ball never touched the ground, all 3 robots were stationary the majority of the time, and it was a 3-assist cycle every time.

33 would inbound, truss shot it to the HP, HP would inbound it to a bot, the bot would shoot it horizontally across the field to the other HP, that HP would inbound it to the third bot, who would finish the cycle with a high shot.

Very impressive to watch.

Yep, that marinara sauce worked very well. We will post video as soon as we can.

[Michael Hill]

I feel like Cheesyvision was an elaborate Trojan horse. 254 knew teams would implement it, but they always had something up their sleeve knowing they could defeat it. They duped 1114 into believing that they (1114) could block 254's automode, taking away 1114's scoring in autonomous.

There seems to be something not so straightforward with 254's release of Cheesyvision.

Has anyone seen my tinfoil hat?

[DampRobot]

Originally Posted by Michael Hill

I feel like Cheesyvision was an elaborate Trojan horse. 254 knew teams would implement it, but they always had something up their sleeve knowing they could defeat it. They duped 1114 into believing that they (1114) could block 254's automode, taking away 1114's scoring in autonomous.

There seems to be something not so straightforward with 254's release of Cheesyvision.

Has anyone seen my tinfoil hat?

I believe 254 always shot their auto balls over the low goal. They didn't change it to fool 1114 or anyone else.

I don't think 254 would do something like that... they want to win on the field, not by "tricking" you. And in any case, 1114 is not a team that can get easily "duped."

[Citrus Dad]

Originally Posted by DampRobot

I believe 254 always shot their auto balls over the low goal. They didn't change it to fool 1114 or anyone else.

I don't think 254 would do something like that... they want to win on the field, not by "tricking" you. And in any case, 1114 is not a team that can get easily "duped."

See 254's explanation of their response to 1114 after the second match in the Einstein thread. They had to come up with an innovative counter strategy on the spot.

[donald_pinckney]

Originally Posted by Michael Hill

I feel like Cheesyvision was an elaborate Trojan horse. 254 knew teams would implement it, but they always had something up their sleeve knowing they could defeat it. They duped 1114 into believing that they (1114) could block 254's automode, taking away 1114's scoring in autonomous.

There seems to be something not so straightforward with 254's release of Cheesyvision.

Has anyone seen my tinfoil hat?

The statement "taking away 1114's scoring autonomous" isn't quite applicable, because 254 should expect that Einstein level alliances should be capable of scoring a consistent 3 ball auto even without one of their best shooters shooting. Team 1640 was offensively amazing capable considering they were 3rd robot of 1st seeded alliance.

[Citrus Dad]

Originally Posted by donald_pinckney

The statement "taking away 1114's scoring autonomous" isn't quite applicable, because 254 should expect that Einstein level alliances should be capable of scoring a consistent 3 ball auto even without one of their best shooters shooting. Team 1640 was offensively amazing capable considering they were 3rd robot of 1st seeded alliance.

Exactly one of the reasons why we chose 1640--the reliability of their auto shot.

An interesting sidenote--we had to radically change our draft strategy for Champs vs Regionals because we realized we were going to get very high quality offensive-capable robots. No modifications to catapults like we had done on our third robots in the regionals. It was much more fun picking among the amazing robots that we knew would be available. 1640 easily could have been a first draft for any other alliance in our division.