VIAIR 250C-IG Compressor

[ArtemusMaximus]

We found this compressor that by the looks of it meets requirement of FRC rule book for 2014 season.
http://www.viaircorp.com/250C-IG.html
I wanted to hear your guys input especially if I missed something in the rules.
Because it looks like far superior compressor comparing to VIAIR 90C while still under FRC's 1.05 CFM limitation.

[Mk.32]

Yep it's legal (the 12v version), we used it and loved it! It is heavyyyy so we can it off board.

[ArtemusMaximus]

Thanks Mk.32 for quick reply. It's good to have a confirmation.
Before we found it, I started to work on a heat sink design for 90C cause it was getting very hot even with small fan. I probably better finish design, share it and may be someone would benefit from it.

[theawesome1730]

It is a fantastic piece of hardware. Never even got too hot to touch. It's hefty, but if you need the air, it's worth it. We were asked by probably 10 teams about it and many seem very interested. If you can afford the weight costs, by all means get it. We won't be using the others ever again unless we are too close on weight or don't have many pneumatics. We were a little worried about current draw, but it's no worse than the 90c. Be aware that Q&A said that it is required to use the stainless steel braid leader line and you need to design for that since it is heavy and cumbersome.

[ArtemusMaximus]

Thanks, good to know.
Q&A you are referring to, is it Q325?

[theawesome1730]

Originally Posted by ArtemusMaximus

Q&A you are referring to, is it Q325?

Yes, that's the one, bit of a bummer since it weighs so much and is hard to deal with

[ArtemusMaximus]

I compiled comparison table of compressors I found meet the FRC requirements. I hope it may help someone

[ArtemusMaximus]

And here is heat sink design I was working on.

[Nick1912]

I believe his is another FIRST approved compressor which I was told 254 used this year and with 17 pistons it probably got a good workout (someone may want to check me on both of those). It is only a little heavier than the KOP compressor too http://www.gd-thomas.com/product.aspx?id=12622&tp=p

[wilsonmw04]

Originally Posted by Nick1912

I believe his is another FIRST approved compressor which I was told 254 used this year and with 17 pistons it probably got a good workout (someone may want to check me on both of those). It is only a little heavier than the KOP compressor too http://www.gd-thomas.com/product.aspx?id=12622&tp=p

we used this to good use.

[ArtemusMaximus]

Originally Posted by Nick1912

I believe his is another FIRST approved compressor which I was told 254 used this year and with 17 pistons it probably got a good workout (someone may want to check me on both of those). It is only a little heavier than the KOP compressor too http://www.gd-thomas.com/product.aspx?id=12622&tp=p

Oh yes, thank you.
I saw that one but was too lazy to add it to the list. It seemed not much better, yet quite a bit more money.
On the other hand it still viable option and will add to the list.

[cbale2000]

Originally Posted by ArtemusMaximus

We found this compressor that by the looks of it meets requirement of FRC rule book for 2014 season.
http://www.viaircorp.com/250C-IG.html
I wanted to hear your guys input especially if I missed something in the rules.
Because it looks like far superior compressor comparing to VIAIR 90C while still under FRC's 1.05 CFM limitation.

Does anyone know how this compressor compares with the old KOP compressors as far as weight and fill rates?

[ArtemusMaximus]

Originally Posted by cbale2000

Does anyone know how this compressor compares with the old KOP compressors as far as weight and fill rates?

Yes, see the comparison table I compiled
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/at...6&d=1399254659

[Al Skierkiewicz]

WildStang also used the new (Viair look alike) Thomas compressor. We liked it but it does not have a mounting flange or hardware. We considered that using any of the hardware on the compressor to mount it likely violated the "do not modify" rules so we made a custom bent aluminum tray for it. (Look for a change in the future.)
As pointed out, the Viair compressor comes with a stainless steel hose that is required by the manufacturer and so is required by the Q&A.

[Ben Martin]

Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz

WildStang also used the new (Viair look alike) Thomas compressor. We liked it but it does not have a mounting flange or hardware. We considered that using any of the hardware on the compressor to mount it likely violated the "do not modify" rules so we made a custom bent aluminum tray for it. (Look for a change in the future.)
As pointed out, the Viair compressor comes with a stainless steel hose that is required by the manufacturer and so is required by the Q&A.

This compressor? We used it this year. Great for weight savings and cfm is alright, but it really, really likes to heat up. We thought we'd give it a try after 254 used it last year.