2015 - What would you like to see in next year's point system?

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Chris Hibner

I think hockey-style penalties would be kind of fun. If you pin someone for too long, the ref pushes a button and your robot is disabled for 15 seconds. That will make it easy for the pinned robot to escape and add a tangible penalty to the alliance.

If you commit a technical foul - 30 seconds of being disabled.

The only issue is this system wouldn't have worked so well this year since it could create dead balls. Then again, the refs could wait until the offending robot gives up the ball before assessing the penalty.

Another issue is that it probably wouldn't be too much of a disincentive for barely functional teams, so maybe it wouldn't work at the low level competitions, but at the high level events I think it would be interesting to try.

Another issue here is that these calls can't be reversed without replaying the match. Point penalties can be adjusted after the match, but not live disabling. We would need a rule set far less ambiguous and subjective for me to be comfortable with this idea.

[Clinton Bolinger]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

Another issue here is that these calls can't be reversed without replaying the match. Point penalties can be adjusted after the match, but not live disabling. We would need a rule set far less ambiguous and subjective for me to be comfortable with this idea.

Lol ... Refs changing the score after the scores have been shown.

Originally Posted by Chris Hibner

I think hockey-style penalties would be kind of fun. If you pin someone for too long, the ref pushes a button and your robot is disabled for 15 seconds. That will make it easy for the pinned robot to escape and add a tangible penalty to the alliance.

If you commit a technical foul - 30 seconds of being disabled.

The only issue is this system wouldn't have worked so well this year since it could create dead balls. Then again, the refs could wait until the offending robot gives up the ball before assessing the penalty.

Another issue is that it probably wouldn't be too much of a disincentive for barely functional teams, so maybe it wouldn't work at the low level competitions, but at the high level events I think it would be interesting to try.

I personally like the idea of disabling robots for a set amount of time. Maybe 5 seconds for a small penalty. But the FMS would have to indicate to the Drivers that their robot was disabled. This could easily be done using LED or Lights in the driver station (Red Lights turn on around the glass) and a Count Down on the Team's Driver Station Computer.

I don't know how many times my drivers have went to the question box to find out what call was made. Then find out it was on one of our alliance members. We then go and talk to them to educate them on the call. They had no idea that the call was made or that it was even a rule.

By disabling their robot in a match it might help them question and seek out the answers of why they always get disabled in a match. Also this makes it less detrimental for good teams to be hurt by teams that just don't care (which I have seen before too). I would rather try to pull more "weight" for our alliance than have to make up a 50-100 point differential that was caused by a team that has little value added*.

*Please note that we always try to include our alliance partners in matches to do what is in the best interest for the alliance.

-Clinton-