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FRC as a credit bearing course

Our school is looking at adding a credit bearing course focused around FRC. I was looking to see what other schools offer such a class and get a handle on how they teach it, what they teach, and how they intergrate everything together.
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Re: FRC as a credit bearing course

Back in the day 931 developed a curriculum. They still use something similar -- Frank Dressel can provide details of the present system.
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Re: FRC as a credit bearing course

Reach out to Wildstang (111). I believe their program is done entirely as a school class.
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Re: FRC as a credit bearing course

WildStang has been a credit class in district 214 for most of it's existence. (20 years next season, working on anniversary ideas now) We currently have 60 students enrolled and our students must register through their counselor before we consider their entrance to the team. We have a curriculum with weekly quizes, homework and participation checks. Students wishing to be on drive team or pit crew must maintain grade minimums and maintain an "A" in robotics. Other students must maintain a less aggressive grade minimum to travel. Mentors get grade reports on a regular basis to back up the teachers.
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Re: FRC as a credit bearing course

Al, I'm interested in learning more about your FRC curriculum. Do you have any information available? Is the class during the normal school day or extracurricular?
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Re: FRC as a credit bearing course

There's not a curriculum at all, but as of next year, our team's students will get elective credits for participation in robotics.
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Re: FRC as a credit bearing course

Team 1515 has been run as a school class for credit for the past 4 years. We don't really have a curriculum as we pride ourselves as being a student run team. Our teacher mostly just puts in attendance and helps out with the business sub-team.
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Re: FRC as a credit bearing course

I sent a request to the lead teacher just now. Our students have to sign in for attendance at the regular Monday team meeting. Minimum attendance is the three hours, from 5:30-8:30 every Monday. You must complete the Question of the Week online and participate in class activities while present just to get a passing grade. Your participation above that improves your grade and helps with determining who travels, who is on the pit crew and if you can be on the drive team. We continue to do fundraising and Chairman's activities and so you are expected to participate in those as well. The minimum fundraising requirement pays for your team shirt. Additional fundraising helps defer your travel expenses. Chairman's activities will include demos, community service, and other events as they come up.
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Re: FRC as a credit bearing course

OK,
This is what I received from our teacher as an outline for mandatory Monday meetings.

The subteam reference is to be a 1:45 meeting as sub team with those mentors to train and discuss items needed for the build season. i.e. electrical will teach stripping technique and soldering of various electrical terminals and wires.
Team building will include VEX/FTC robot building as well as student to student peer interaction. Community outreach is planning and preparing for any outreach events that might occur including holiday food drives, senior lawn cleanup, demos, FLL etc. We are also planning other team building events and leadership training that are still being worked out. This is in flux right now as we are trying to respond to comments and expectations expressed by our students during post mortem meetings two weeks ago.

Here is a basic outline of the semester:
Week 1 Orientation (Aug 25)
Week 2 Cookout
Week 3 Subteam presentations/VEX kit sorting
Week 4 In subteams/VEX orientation
Week 5 In subteams/team building/community outreach
Week 6 In subteams/team building/community outreach
Week 7 In subteams/team building/community outreach
Week 8 In subteams/team building/community outreach
Week 9 In subteams/team building/community outreach
Week 10 In subteams/team building/community outreach
Week 11 In subteams/team building/community outreach
Week 12 In subteams/VEX practice
Week 13 In subteams/VEX class competition
Week 14 Final subteams/team building/leadup to kickoff
Week 15 Final subteams/team building/leadup to kickoff
Week 16 Final subteams/team building/leadup to kickoff
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Re: FRC as a credit bearing course

If anyone is interested in what we teach in the class for electrical during our fall classes, send me a PM for details.
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Re: FRC as a credit bearing course

http://www3.usfirst.org/aboutus/impact

On that page your teacher can request the study on how FIRST programs meet education standards. No 2 credit programs are alike, each has to be tweaked and adjusted for that specific area and school.
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Re: FRC as a credit bearing course

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OK,
This is what I received from our teacher as an outline for mandatory Monday meetings.

The subteam reference is to be a 1:45 meeting as sub team with those mentors to train and discuss items needed for the build season. i.e. electrical will teach stripping technique and soldering of various electrical terminals and wires.
Team building will include VEX/FTC robot building as well as student to student peer interaction. Community outreach is planning and preparing for any outreach events that might occur including holiday food drives, senior lawn cleanup, demos, FLL etc. We are also planning other team building events and leadership training that are still being worked out. This is in flux right now as we are trying to respond to comments and expectations expressed by our students during post mortem meetings two weeks ago.

Here is a basic outline of the semester:
Week 1 Orientation (Aug 25)
Week 2 Cookout
Week 3 Subteam presentations/VEX kit sorting
Week 4 In subteams/VEX orientation
Week 5 In subteams/team building/community outreach
Week 6 In subteams/team building/community outreach
Week 7 In subteams/team building/community outreach
Week 8 In subteams/team building/community outreach
Week 9 In subteams/team building/community outreach
Week 10 In subteams/team building/community outreach
Week 11 In subteams/team building/community outreach
Week 12 In subteams/VEX practice
Week 13 In subteams/VEX class competition
Week 14 Final subteams/team building/leadup to kickoff
Week 15 Final subteams/team building/leadup to kickoff
Week 16 Final subteams/team building/leadup to kickoff

Al,
Thanks for posting this.

Do the students chose the subteam of their choice?
Do the students get credit for the Spring Semester as well in Robotics? If so, can you elaborate some on that semester as well.

Thanks,

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Re: FRC as a credit bearing course

Norm,
The students will give us their first, second and third choices for sub teams. We will listen to students who find that the sub team they are assigned is really not working for them. The build season carries the same Monday required meeting time which can be split between school and build space. Students not actively working on the robot will build field parts, work on strategy, yearbook, video documentation (for year end DVD) assembling buttons work on Chairman's activities, Woodie Flowers submission and other award submissions as needed. The same grade requirements continue throughout the year.
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Re: FRC as a credit bearing course

As the head mentor of 1678, I have always wanted to teach a course that was firmly entrenched in the FIRST program. Since our program works so well already, my goal was to not mess with what already works but build it into the curriculum.

This year, I proposed a "Robotics Engineering" curriculum to our school board and it was approved for next year. The curriculum is designed to allow students to explore the various aspects of the FIRST program and then, later, specialize in their preferred area. I envision it becoming a four year program with each year building on the previous one. A brief outline of the four year program is as follows:

Year 1 - Students take a variety of mini courses in the areas of CAD design, fabrication, mechanics, electronics, programming, business development, and media.

Year 2 - Students choose an area of specialization and work on a sub-team to develop their skills to a higher level. Peer or mentor-led workshops will be a major part of the second year curriculum.

Year 3 - Students become sub-team leaders and work on developing leadership and communication skills while continuing to develop their technical skills. Students would also run workshops and mentor first and second year students.

Year 4 - Students take on more responsibility including leadership of one or more outreach programs. I envision some kind of capstone project that would enable seniors to give back to their community in a meaningful way.

At this point, I have not developed the details of the curriculum for each of the four years but I think this gives an idea of where we are heading. Again, the main goal is to use what is already working in the FIRST program. As you can see, I really favor the "apprenticeship" model of learning which is really what FIRST is all about.

Our school district is very supportive of this curriculum and is providing us with facilities, equipment (computers, shop equipment, etc.) and even stipends for some of the mentors.

In this upcoming first year, the course will be taught as an after school program. Assessment will be done in much the way employees are evaluated at work. I will conduct periodic performance reviews and give feedback to each student on how they are progressing. The class will be graded on a pass-no pass basis.

I would be happy to give more details and would also love to hear any thoughts or suggestions.
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Re: FRC as a credit bearing course

I know that in Volusia County Florida, they currently offer an academy at one school (Spruce Creek HS Academy for Information, Technology and Robotics [AITR]) that is specifically designed to be like FIRST and that they work in 6 week hexmesters. The lead mentor/teacher for team 2152 is writing the curriculum along with the Ford PAS Career Academy team with Ford NGL. This is why the team name will be changing slightly in the next year to add in "Driven by Ford". The students stay within the academy all day and only if they take an AP class offered during first block are they able to go outside the academy.

I cannot give specifics at this time on the curriculum because it is still being ironed out, as I'm fairly certain that this was the first year the academy was in this form. But during the 6 weeks of build season, that hexmester was specifically designed to be build season.
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