Make FRC History: WVROX

[Fletch1373]

Originally Posted by EricH

If that is the case, then I would agree on a replay. Here's why.

I'm assuming that the event was played under standard FRC rules. Under standard FRC rules, any robot scoring a ball must be between the truss and the goal. Thus, there should have been a no-goal, hand the ball back to the HP, DO NOT light the pedestal. Error on the ref's part, or the HP's part. (I'll get to the potential foul points in a moment.) But if you're under IRI rules, if you make a low goal on a truss shot you get the points. Error on the volunteer's part.

And about those fouls: For taking a ball off of an unlit pedestal, technical foul. For entering it into play, another technical foul, and the ball is field debris. Not pretty.


Because you now have a no-goal that was treated as a no-goal by one "end" of the field and as a goal by the other end of the field, the head referee would have no choice but to huddle up, get some clarity from the refs and possibly the reset, and then call for a field fault. Field faults are by definition replays under T16 if the outcome of the match was affected (and this one sure could have been). I'd go with a good call to replay that one.

We were playing with a slightly modified version of the standard rules. Truss-shot goals were allowed for this event(Source, I was at the scoring table for about 23 hours of it...). The reason for the replay was simply due to shear confusion. The refs dropped the ball(not literally) by not catching it happening at the time and stopping it. The field reset crew dropped the ball(again, not literally) by not realizing what should've happened instead of what did happen. I'm not here to point blame, just to clarify it a little. I'm sure you could understand how tired everyone was, and beyond that, it was a first year event, which took on a lot of rookie volunteers. While there were many of us with extensive FIRST experience, there was also a significant number of people that were just getting their feet wet, and I applaud them for that. It's unfortunate that it happened, but the replay was the correct course of action, and I believe it was well executed.