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Re: blog; Motor Controller Options for 2015

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...Also, I like that I don't have to practically write a whole grant just to put some speed controls on our robot...
I've seen statements like this in several places, but it appears to me that they are essentially the same price as existing speed controller options. What am I missing that everyone else has noticed?
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Re: blog; Motor Controller Options for 2015

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I've seen statements like this in several places, but it appears to me that they are essentially the same price as existing speed controller options. What am I missing that everyone else has noticed?
I've been interpreting these statements as "It's really nice we won't have to buy ~$1000 of new speed controllers because our old ones are still legal." I don't have any background with a situation where teams had to replace all their speed controllers in one year, but then I've only been in FRC since 2011, so maybe someone who has been around longer can shed a historical light on this.
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Re: blog; Motor Controller Options for 2015

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I've seen statements like this in several places, but it appears to me that they are essentially the same price as existing speed controller options. What am I missing that everyone else has noticed?
If I recall correctly, speed controllers used to be more expensive, but when the Talon came out there was a special introductory price that triggered big discounts on all of the speed controllers that pretty much never went away.
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Re: blog; Motor Controller Options for 2015

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If I recall correctly, speed controllers used to be more expensive, but when the Talon came out there was a special introductory price that triggered big discounts on all of the speed controllers that pretty much never went away.
Yes, Victors were $120 if I recall.
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Yes, Victors were $120 if I recall.
The Victor was not $120 when the Talon came out. It was $115 when the Jaguar came out in 2009.

It was reduced when the Jaguar was introduced in 2009 to $79, then reduced again when the Talon was introduced in 2013.
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The Victor was not $120 when the Talon came out. It was $115 when the Jaguar came out in 2009.

It was reduced when the Jaguar was introduced in 2009 to $79, then reduced again when the Talon was introduced in 2013.
Sorry, bad recollection.
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Re: blog; Motor Controller Options for 2015

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The Victor was not $120 when the Talon came out. It was $115 when the Jaguar came out in 2009.

It was reduced when the Jaguar was introduced in 2009 to $79, then reduced again when the Talon was introduced in 2013.
I thought the Victor was reduced at the start of the 2010 competition season and to $90

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I thought the Victor was reduced at the start of the 2010 competition season and to $90

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=80576
I made the decision in 2009

The price actually changed in December, 2009.
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Re: blog; Motor Controller Options for 2015

The blog say that "A selection of [the old] controllers will be available in the 2015 Kickoff Kits and/or through FIRST Choice".

Were there motor controllers in the KOP this past year? Looking at the old FIRST Choice site, it looks like only one type of controller (Talons) were available through there.

Basically this makes me nervous on the availability of old Talon SRs come January. I have been wanting to move our team to all Talon SRs for next year (or the new Victor SPs) if they are available, but this lack of surety has me worried. Right now there is no guarantee that Talon SRs will be available through FIRST channels, and there is no guarantee that Victor SP will be available through private channels.

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The blog say that "A selection of [the old] controllers will be available in the 2015 Kickoff Kits and/or through FIRST Choice".

Were there motor controllers in the KOP this past year? Looking at the old FIRST Choice site, it looks like Victors were not available through there.

Basically this makes me nervous on the availability of old Talon SRs come January. I have been wanting to move our team to all Talon SRs for next year (or the new Victor SPs) if they are available, but this lack of surety has me worried. Right now there is no guarantee that Talon SRs will be available through FIRST channels, and there is no guarantee that Victor SP will be available through private channels.
If I remember correctly Victors/Jags were in the KOP through a voucher to IFI/VexPRO.
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Re: blog; Motor Controller Options for 2015

Paul,

Since you are watching this thread can you post more details about the feedback available on the Talon SRX?

I would love to see an outline on what features would be available, ie encoder, limit switches, analog?
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Paul,

Since you are watching this thread can you post more details about the feedback available on the Talon SRX?

I would love to see an outline on what features would be available, ie encoder, limit switches, analog?
I'd be curious if/when they will reveal distributors. It's unclear to me (probably on purpose since it isn't finalized) whether or not VEXpro will be selling both exclusively to teams and its authorized resellers, AndyMark will be selling at least the Talon SRX exclusively, or if everybody is selling both.
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Re: blog; Motor Controller Options for 2015

I would really like to see producers of these new produces comment on the stock levels they intend to have available on or before January 3rd, 2015. The only comment I have seen from Vex on this thread is correcting how much a Jag cost a few years ago.
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Re: blog; Motor Controller Options for 2015

Attn Paul and friends at IFI and CTRE.

How long are the wires on these things?

I'd pay an extra $10 per unit if the wires were something like 4 feet long, at least on the input and especially PWM wires. Can we make this an option?
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Re: blog; Motor Controller Options for 2015

On the parts we got for beta testing, the power and motor leads are 5.5" and the PWM wire is about 18" long.
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