GPA Requirements and Penalties

[BBray_T1296]

Our district policy is modeled after the UIL policy of no pass, no play. (failing any class and you cannot compete) While you are allowed to be in the club, work on the robot, etc, we cannot take anyone who is failing on field trips, which include regionals and demos.

[Trey178]

The coaches give what they define as a portfolio to every student. It's a Power Point template where each member keeps track of what work he/she has done throughout the season. A couple years ago, a second one was added so now each student has one fore pre-seaon and another for the regular season (build, competition, etc.).

The objective of the pre-season file is for the students to get a feel for tracking their effort within the team so when the time arrives for them to log their regular season activity, the coaches will have an accurate understanding of who is allowed to miss school to attend competition (though forming the NEFirst district has eliminated a good portion of that issue).

The above, and academic grades, are the two deciding factors of building our potential travel team for the season.

[DonRotolo]

We also follow the school's extracurricular policy. I don't have a copy, but basically you need a 2.0 (of 4) average, checked at the end of each marking period when grades are delivered. Less than 2.0 means you cannot participate.

[SoulianPride]

1) Do you have a GPA or grade requirement to remain on the team?
It is required that you have no less than a C in all of your classes and that you maintain a 2.5 GPA at least. With a new principal this is really being enforced.

2) How often is GPA determined if so. . If not, why not?
GPAs and grades are checked a week before any competition and at the start of build season.

3) What are the penalties for not fulfilling this obligation?
No competitions if you do not meet the requirements.

[Al Skierkiewicz]

WildStang has been a class in the district for more than fifteen years. It carries a grade that is applied to your GPA. To remain on the team every member must having passing grades in all classes, robotics included. To travel, grades in other classes should be better than just passing and robotics grade should be C or above (In addition to a variety of other factors). To be on pit crew or drive team, all other classes should be C or higher and robotics should be an A. Some pit crew members and at least one drive crew member over the years, thought they were more valuable than grades. They were pulled from their respective teams until grades rose to minimums. One of those included a Champs trip.

[SoftwareBug2.0]

Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz

WildStang has been a class in the district for more than fifteen years. It carries a grade that is applied to your GPA. To remain on the team every member must having passing grades in all classes, robotics included. To travel, grades in other classes should be better than just passing and robotics grade should be C or above (In addition to a variety of other factors). ...

I don't mean to derail the thread but how do you structure your course? If you have I whitepaper I'd be interested to read it.

I've heard of schools having a robotics class and having people work on an FRC robot during the season but it sounds like this is more the other way around - that being in the class is an essential part of being on the team. I was poking around on the Wildstang website a bit and it looks like there are three different high schools involved, so I assume that you don't meet during a normal class period.

[Fusion_Clint]

Below is an excerpt from our team standards. At our school a 3.2 equates to 80% (B-), a 3.4 is 85% (B) and a 3.8 is 95% (A) with 4.0 being 100%.

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All members of Team Fusion are required to graduate High School, become a problem solver, a lifelong learner, and productive member of society. To that end, Team Fusion members are required to have a 3.2 in all classes. During the first four weeks of any marking period, the previous marking periods final grades will be the grade of record. During the last five weeks of the marking period, the current grade as of Tuesday of each week will be the grade of record.

Should any member of Team Fusion fall below this academic standard, they are prohibited from participating in any community outreach, build sessions, competitions, or travel with the team. These members are highly encouraged to still come to team meetings to receive tutoring in the subject that they require help. These restrictions will remain in place until they meet the 3.2 standard.

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We are not concerned with the "athletic team" requirements; very few of those students go on to practice their "sport" in college, let alone follow it into the professional realm.

[Caleb Sykes]

To that end, Team Fusion members are required to have below a 3.2 in all classes.

That is certainly an interesting requirement.

[Al Skierkiewicz]

Eric,
Until this year we were considered a "ninth period" class. Students have to register to be part of the team and to be included in the class. Obviously that is needed to be included in grading. This year we have migrated to being a night school class, which opens more possibilities, takes admin out of the hands of a principal, and officially opens the program to home schooled students in the district. (Their parents pay taxes to the district afterall.) It changes the way teachers operate as they no longer are given any day time planning and it pays them through a different stream. We started the year with 74 students and will lose from 5-10 by the beginning of the build season. Some people will come on board thinking this is a social club and don't want to work as hard as we require for grades or participation. Only about half of those still on in April will actually get a chance to go to Champs.
This class started when several students approached the school board with a formal presentation to make this a class (ca 1998). They agreed if we had a class plan, grading rubriks and attendance. While this is one of the largest classes we have had (mostly we kept to around 60) we have almost 30 freshmen this year. During the fall we teach fundamentals in electrical, pneumatic, mechanical, software, animation, work on Woodie Flower's submission and plan and perform Chairman's events. In addition every student not on the software team, must be involved in an FTC or VEX team. We run both an FTC and a VEX tournament in November/December. Additionally, we will teach a safety course and every student must be checked out on power tools (drill press, band saw, hand drill, etc.) The curriculum changes each year to respond to student requests and needs.

[dag0620]

Originally Posted by Fusion_Clint

Team Fusion members are required to have a 3.2 in all classes.

Originally Posted by inkling16

That is certainly an interesting requirement.

I'm with you there. 3.2 is certainly an interesting GPA to have required.

Originally Posted by Whippet

The way I see it, the people who FIRST would help the most are the ones who are not fairing well academically, so why should we prevent them from participating due to their academic standing?

I agree 100% on this. That is why I'm not a fan of policies that set a high GPA requirement for team members. It limits access to the program for those who could need it the most.

As long as students are passing (2.0 in most cases) I'm okay with having them participating on a team. This is the policy our team has had since its inception.

[Fusion_Clint]

Originally Posted by inkling16

That is certainly an interesting requirement.

Sorry, it was a bad cut and paste, thanks for the help.

[Fusion_Clint]

Originally Posted by dag0620

I'm with you there. 3.2 is certainly an interesting GPA to have required.



I agree 100% on this. That is why I'm not a fan of policies that set a high GPA requirement for team members. It limits access to the program for those who could need it the most.

As long as students are passing (2.0 in most cases) I'm okay with having them participating on a team. This is the policy our team has had since its inception.

A 3.2 is a B- in our grading system (2.8 is a C-), with the addtional burden of build season, students that are barely passing may run into serious trouble with grades. If a student is serious about FRC they can maintain a B- average.

[pntbll1313]

Originally Posted by Fusion_Clint

A 3.2 is a B- in our grading system (2.8 is a C-), with the addtional burden of build season, students that are barely passing may run into serious trouble with grades. If a student is serious about FRC they can maintain a B- average.

OK that makes more sense to me. That is different than the grading scale than I'm used to. (In most grading systems the difference between an A and a C- is more than 1 point)

A....3.8
A-...?
B+..?
B....3.4
B-...3.2
C+..?
C....?
C-...2.8
D+..?
D....?
D-...?
F.....0

Our requirement is similar to a lot of other teams at our school. The student must maintain a C average with no F in any class. If they fall below that requirement they are put on "probation" until they get that grade back up.

[Al Skierkiewicz]

Originally Posted by dag0620

I agree 100% on this. That is why I'm not a fan of policies that set a high GPA requirement for team members. It limits access to the program for those who could need it the most.

For us it seems to encourage the students that are below to improve. We have had many students who entered the program thinking about just getting out of school with no future. they left headed to a good school and a promising career. Tracking our grads finds more than 96% heading off to additional school. Most of the remainder are heading to military life. We have had some students who were the first in their extended family to graduate high school. One of those received a full ride scholarship to Kettering.

[Tyler_Kaplan]

For our team you have to maintain a minimum GPA of 2.0 to be considered a member. This is the standard for sports at our school as well. However, if you want to be on the board of directors (our leadership structure) You have to have at least a 3.0. And on top of that, if you want to go to competition and travel with the team, you have to be there for 61% of team meeting time. This is a weighted scale however: 35% Fundraising 30% Build Season 20% Pre/Post Build Season Work Meetings, and 15% Team Bonding.