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Re: pic: 2169 'not so summer' off-season project teaser

This looks really nice! I do have a couples questions.
1. Do you have more bearing blocks then needed for one complete drive?
2. Are the slimmer blocks for 3/8 axle?
3. What is the hole in the side of the blocks (tensioning?)

Just a couple things I've been curious about. Thanks
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Re: pic: 2169 'not so summer' off-season project teaser

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This looks really nice! I do have a couples questions.
1. Do you have more bearing blocks then needed for one complete drive?
2. Are the slimmer blocks for 3/8 axle?
3. What is the hole in the side of the blocks (tensioning?)

Just a couple things I've been curious about. Thanks
I'm assuming the slimmer blocks are for the ends of the rails and the hole is for a tension bolt.
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Re: pic: 2169 'not so summer' off-season project teaser

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I'm assuming the slimmer blocks are for the ends of the rails and the hole is for a tension bolt.
I'm fairly certain this is right, KING TeC has done this type of tensioner in the past if I recall correctly.
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Re: pic: 2169 'not so summer' off-season project teaser

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I'm fairly certain this is right, KING TeC has done this type of tensioner in the past if I recall correctly.
It works well, and is easy to do/adjust.

The bummer (and one of the reasons we don't do it), is it limits frame mounting options in those corners.
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Re: pic: 2169 'not so summer' off-season project teaser

looks like your using the West Coast gearboxes, I milled myself the same pieces. Unfortunate, the chain we ordered hasn't come in yet, a mentor ordered it awhile ago. However, On Thursday we ran it and I had SOOO much fun using only the two wheels that are direct drives to the CIM/ Gearbox. It is quick as heck!
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Re: pic: 2169 'not so summer' off-season project teaser

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This looks really nice! I do have a couples questions.
1. Do you have more bearing blocks then needed for one complete drive?
2. Are the slimmer blocks for 3/8 axle?
3. What is the hole in the side of the blocks (tensioning?)

Just a couple things I've been curious about. Thanks
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1. Nope, there are enough blocks for 4 axles, the bearing blocks are the ones with the bigger holes.
2. As previously mentioned those are actually for a 1/2 #20 bolt to be held for a tensioner.
3. It is a tapped hole for 1/4 #20 thread. This coupled with the bolt and bolt holder create linear motion with the bearing blocks, allowing for tensioning.
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Re: pic: 2169 'not so summer' off-season project teaser

Having only really looked into COTS options for WCD, I would appreciate if you posted pictures of the final product, or even in progress product, so that I could see where and how all those parts are being used.
Looks crazy schnazy, but also confusing to the uninitiated
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Re: pic: 2169 'not so summer' off-season project teaser

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3. It is a tapped hole for 1/4 #20 thread. This coupled with the bolt and bolt holder create linear motion with the bearing blocks, allowing for tensioning.
Semantics, I know, but the notation is 1/4-20

Also, one thing that I might worry about here is galling on the aluminum threads in the blocks. It's rare with aluminum, but it sucks to say the least.

Galling is cold-welding between your screw and your nut material (in this case the aluminum) because the oxide layer of the aluminum wears away (this is why stainless steel fasteners can be a bad idea, the oxide layer wears away and they gall even worse than aluminum) .

I've only had it happen to me once before, but it makes the screw pretty much impossible to remove save with a drill.

Some ways that you can prevent this:


1. drill and tap your hole for a larger size and use key-locking inserts to put in a nice steel thread. This solves all problems and is my preferred solution.

2. Apply a PFTE-based compound onto the threads (or powdercoat / alodize/ anodize the material). Also solves most of your problems

3. use coarse threads with a loose fit (not really practical here)

Failing making any changes to the part:

4. Don't over tighten! Use a torquewrench and tighten to a low torque.

5. Tighten the bolt really really slowly. This keeps heat from building up too much.
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Re: pic: 2169 'not so summer' off-season project teaser

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Having only really looked into COTS options for WCD, I would appreciate if you posted pictures of the final product, or even in progress product, so that I could see where and how all those parts are being used.
Looks crazy schnazy, but also confusing to the uninitiated
I will definitely do that for ya! It was confusing for me at first too.
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Re: pic: 2169 'not so summer' off-season project teaser

The real question is will it be ready for Minne-Mini? If so it'll be really fun to watch.
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