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Re: How do you coach your Drive Team/How to be an Effective Drive Team Coach?

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I have an off question for this main topic. Our student field coach was put in a very hard situation during one of our competitions.-snip-
It may have nothing to do with the fact that your coach was a student. Sometimes people are just jerks.

I agree - have an adult mentor go with the student to clear the air. No need to have needless animosity toward a team if they saw an alternate strategy that they couldn't articulate at the moment. Or conversely, if the teams in question really aren't good partners at that event, that would be good to know.
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Thanks so much all! What I concluded from the posts before is that an adult mentor would help alot durring the pregame time. Durring the game a student will have to do their best at projecting in a stern voice to the coach speaking to him. And lastly, reach out to other teams after a match to see why they did the things they did! Thanks so much and I hope to see you at kickoff!
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Re: How do you coach your Drive Team/How to be an Effective Drive Team Coach?

What I do with drive practice (before we get to competitions) I try and teach all the smart driving practices and then during comp I back seat drive and let the drivers figure out how they want to do it.
So when I yell at them "Get them out of our house" (which I say cause while commanding is a fun non harsh thing to yell at them) then I leave it up to the judgement of the driver how they do it, be it a shoving match or they catch a side and t-bone them across the field. Now ideally if I taught them right they should pick the right tool for the job.
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Re: How do you coach your Drive Team/How to be an Effective Drive Team Coach?

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You can read what Adam Freeman had to say over on being a drive coach over on beyondinspection.
If anyone else would like to do a coaches corner, please send me a message.
Thanks for sharing Adam's thoughts on Drive Coaching. It is spot on!
For the amount of thought many talented veteran coaches put into the role, its no surprise that their respective programs reflect the same enthusiasm and success both on and off the field.
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Re: How do you coach your Drive Team/How to be an Effective Drive Team Coach?

Never be angry.

Of course, this is a bit idealized - who has perfect control of their emotions? - but there is nothing I've seen demoralize students more at a competition than a furious drive coach shouting them down. That is a terrible sight, and is far more common than it ought to be. There is a major difference between being loud and assertive (which is necessary in a competition environment) and being intimidating and rude. It's difficult to keep your cool under stress, but it's absolutely necessary.
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Re: How do you coach your Drive Team/How to be an Effective Drive Team Coach?

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I've loved this video since I first saw it, and I think the coach here does a pretty great job on the field.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jd32B0chAg
In 2014 our team had a student drive coach - Jake Fisher - who is the voice you predominantly hear throughout the match. He had drive coached several VEX tournaments and an off-season FRC event prior to earning his spot as Drive Coach for the 2014 FRC season. Quite frankly, he did an amazing job, especially for a student.

The success of a Drive Coach depends almost entirely on the strategy that is developed amongst the alliance prior to the match. Without that strategy, a Drive Coach is nearly powerless to have a meaningful effect on the match.

Once your team develops a solid system for ensuring the best strategy for all 3 teams is created, agreed upon, and thoroughly understood by all before every match, the role of the Drive Coach becomes quite straight-forward: Understand everything about the strategy pertinent to your team, and do everything humanly and robotically possible to execute that strategy as faithfully as possible. If any deviation from the strategy happens, the Drive Coach needs to inform the other 2 alliance member Drive Coaches clearly, loudly, and immediately on the field during the match - no exceptions!

Deviations to the original strategy happen often (although the better the team, the less often it happens - this more than anything else is the mark of a "good" team - I don't care if your robot itself is average, good or great, I care far more whether your team can consistently execute an agreed upon strategy). Nothing tarnishes your team's reputation more than deviating from a strategy and not immediately informing your alliance partners why. Your Drive Coach is the singular person responsible for making sure that never happens... no one else.

If you watch the video, our alliance consists of 368, 340 and 610. Prior to the match, we agreed on a strategy where 610 would inbound, and we would play a "ground-game" where we would kiss pass to 340 immediately upon inbounding, then 340 would advance into the next zone (or farther) and kiss pass to 368. 368 would then move to shoot in the high goal, and 340 would support them by setting picks to clear space in the offensive zone. 610 would drop back and play defense, and be ready to receive the next inbound pass immediately.

It was a simple strategy, especially for 610, but you can still hear the amount of instructions Jake is providing for such a simple strategy. Details are very important. Managing which side to inbound, ensuring the robot is in position BEFORE the inbounder delivers the ball. Instructing which robots to play defense on. Reacting on what to do next based on where in the cycle you and your opponents are. Did your alliance partners miss a shot? Should you play defense a little bit longer? Or cut and run back to receive an inbound? Do you need to hit an opponent to free up an alliance partner who has been hemmed in, thus delaying the cycle?

610 spends a lot of time simulating and working through different match situations between competitions. Jake would've done hours of strategic work-ups on mock matches. Prior to a competition, we select 5 random teams who will be competing at a regional with us, and we will construct what we feel is the "optimal" strategy for our alliance, taking into account the strengths and weaknesses of the opposing alliance. We will keep generating random sets of 5 teams until we feel we have a good overall understanding of what the different "types" of matches will be at the competition. Usually, only about 3-4 general match strategy "types" emerge. Jake would've basically memorized all of them, and could specifically recite second-by-second what 610's best role (and others) would've been in each of those situations. It is a bit extreme, but we are very demanding of our Drive Coach, Strategy and Scouting Sub-Teams in this regard.

The members of 610 will be the first to tell you that we don't necessarily build the best robots out there. Our machines are usually reliable, and do the simple things relatively well, but rarely do we produce a real "gamebreaker" machine that performs spectacularly well. We rely heavily on good scouting, strategy and drive team execution to squeeze out as many wins as possible, and it works!

Good luck and best wishes in your new role as Drive Coach! It is truly one of the most fulfilling roles on any FRC team. You can potentially make a very large impact on the team's on-field success!
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