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Re: RoboRIO in stock at AM

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Everything I have heard says they won't be releasing code until kickoff. I've also heard you may be able to flash the myRIO image on to them but you won't have WPILib or any of the other FRC items, haven't tried it myself but I might if I find time this weekend (our roboRIO comes in tomorrow).
You won't be able to write a myRIO image to the device, but there might be enough roboRIO support in last year's LabVIEW (LabVIEW 2013) to get just the operating system installed. I'll try to look into this today and report back whether it's safe or not.
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Re: RoboRIO in stock at AM

I loaded up a machine with LabVIEW 2013 on it and was able to find the roboRIO in NI MAX. You can use NI MAX to install LabVIEW RT 2013 to the target, which also installs the Linux OS. From there you can enable the sshd in MAX as well and you should have access to log into the roboRIO and play with the OS. Naturally this is the OS from over a year ago, not the newer version that will be included in the FRC images. There are a number of differences, but there are more similarities, so you can gain some familiarity with the layout of the file system. This is only if you want to tinker with the system before kick-off. You won't have FPGA support, so you can't talk to any I/O. When you get the image on kick-off day, you will be formatting the root FS, so don't expect to keep any changes you may make to this older version of the OS.

Bottom line, if you really want to play with Linux on the target, do this. If you expect to "use" the device to "do something", this won't help you.
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I loaded up a machine with LabVIEW 2013 on it and was able to find the roboRIO in NI MAX. You can use NI MAX to install LabVIEW RT 2013 to the target, which also installs the Linux OS. From there you can enable the sshd in MAX as well and you should have access to log into the roboRIO and play with the OS. Naturally this is the OS from over a year ago, not the newer version that will be included in the FRC images. There are a number of differences, but there are more similarities, so you can gain some familiarity with the layout of the file system. This is only if you want to tinker with the system before kick-off. You won't have FPGA support, so you can't talk to any I/O. When you get the image on kick-off day, you will be formatting the root FS, so don't expect to keep any changes you may make to this older version of the OS.

Bottom line, if you really want to play with Linux on the target, do this. If you expect to "use" the device to "do something", this won't help you.
Now that the FRC 2015 base software is available and can be run in eval mode until kick-off, this situation improves. You can now play around with the version of the OS for the roboRIO that will be used for competition in 2015. Same instructions above apply, but the LabVIEW version is 2014.

https://decibel.ni.com/content/docs/DOC-34731
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Good news. We've been limited to physical testing so far.

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My wife found a good place for the roboRIO.
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Re: RoboRIO in stock at AM

Well milk warmer is better than pizza oven.
But then again, it's a milk warmer when it's not even plugged in ?!?
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Good news. We've been limited to physical testing so far.
But does it blend?
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But does it blend?
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Now that the FRC 2015 base software is available and can be run in eval mode until kick-off, this situation improves. You can now play around with the version of the OS for the roboRIO that will be used for competition in 2015. Same instructions above apply, but the LabVIEW version is 2014.

https://decibel.ni.com/content/docs/DOC-34731
I can confirm that these instructions work. I can also confirm that the roboRIO is still a useless brick after following these instructions, even with access to the WPILib 2015 source code.
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