[FRC Blog] Kit Hints?

[BBray_T1296]

Originally Posted by Thad House

Can we add a DOGMA penalty for every time the wheels slip?

no, just a 50 point tech foul

[Bryce2471]

A) One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 17 in., 60 lbs.

E) One item, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 26 lbs.

It's a pretty safe bet to say that item A is probably the standard tote. It is listed as a set of items, where as item E is listed as a single item. Just food for thought.

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe

Because this blog post was named Kit "Hints" and FIRST likes to watch CD squirm...

The noodles seems reasonable, but the 29" seems shorter than you actually want your noodles.

Keep in mind that a perfectly square robot meeting last year's frame perimeter measurement was 28" on a side, which makes 29" possible. You can also stick two noodles end to end if you need to in a bumper... I know we've done it before, and it gives the same end results when wrapped up - same protection, and looks just as good.

[notmattlythgoe]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

Keep in mind that a perfectly square robot meeting last year's frame perimeter measurement was 28" on a side, which makes 29" possible. You can also stick two noodles end to end if you need to in a bumper... I know we've done it before, and it gives the same end results when wrapped up - same protection, and looks just as good.

Good point on the end to end option. 29" is still too short for a 28x28 robot, you need the overhang for the corners, it is definitely possible though. Although it seems strange that they would cut them down to that length for us...

[indubitably]

Originally Posted by jagoldman

What about the vespa comment?

The blog itself, other than the title, is just a message from the KOP team, so I don't think reading into the language will help much.

[Foster]

I'm going to suggest that the 3" * 3" by 60" is a life size poster of JVN, with a stand. As you may recall from a RobotWranglers video that they had a cutout of JVN that they just placed in a room with the Roboteers. In an instant they went from goofing off to super buzzy activity.

Thanks FIRST!

[Bruceb]

Ah Lunacy had special wheels.

[Bob Steele]

Ahhh "we are in full swing"
3X3X60 box.....

gotta be a light saber. (maybe two)

[holygrail]

Originally Posted by Joey1939

On AndyMark you can by rolls of bumper material that are 19.5in rolls.
60/19.5 is approximately 3.
3 Alliances confirmed.

Why wouldn't they just stack the rolls of bumper fabric side by side instead of end to end? I don't think it is bumper fabric because they would have to give us a red and blue roll (at least) and they would still probably just stack those next to each other.

Can't be pool noodles. That box is the size of 1 pool noodle and those are way less than 6 lbs.

It doesn't make sense to put objects end to end in a super skinny box. It only makes sense if the object itself is 60 inches long and can't be folded, collapsed, or bent. My guess is some kind of pipe that is used to construct a game element or goal. Who knows, maybe giant tetrahedrons or something?

[Kevin Pardus]

Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe

Good point on the end to end option. 29" is still too short for a 28x28 robot, you need the overhang for the corners, it is definitely possible though. Although it seems strange that they would cut them down to that length for us...

Connecting two pool noodles together to make longer pieces is just one way to fill in the open spaces for the bumper corners. From the 2014 Game Manual, Figure 4-9: Soft Parts of BUMPER Corners

[FrankJ]

Originally Posted by MrTechCenter

It's probably saying that the one box is 5ft long so you won't be able to transport it on something small, like a Vespa.

Speak for yourself....

[notmattlythgoe]

Originally Posted by Kevin Pardus

Connecting two pool noddles together to make longer pieces is just one way to fill in the open spaces for the bumper corners. From the 2014 Game Manual, Figure 4-9: Soft Parts of BUMPER Corners
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Very true, it still seems odd that they would cut them down to that size initially though. Unless they are going to require a specific dimension of the robot, which I would be disappointed by.

[Bryce2471]

Originally Posted by Bob Steele

Ahhh "we are in full swing"
3X3X60 box.....

gotta be a light saber. (maybe two)

This is what I want for FIRSTmas!
*Adds to actual FIRSTmas list*

[Kevin Pardus]

Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe

Very true, it still seems odd that they would cut them down to that size initially though. Unless they are going to require a specific dimension of the robot, which I would be disappointed by.

See previously posted quotes

Originally Posted by Jon K.

Instead they gave this post:
http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...g-New-for-2015

Particularly

Quote:
No one should look at any rules from prior years and think “They would never change that”, because we may. Number of teams on an alliance, number of alliances in a match, match length, bumper rules, field surfaces, robot size, every element from prior year games is carefully considered anew every year.

"bold is my emphasis"

[rhinobot]

Originally Posted by Christopher149

Correlating with the 2014 kit, the 27 in. x 17 in. x ## in. items are probably totes. I'm curious what the 29 in. x 22 in. x 22 in., 9 lbs. item is: it's large and very light.

Inner tube for the water game