Hockey Game Confirmed?

[SenorZ]

Originally Posted by Oblarg

I do not think there will be regolith. None of the "game hints" of this sort have ever panned out, and I think FIRST knows that a return of regolith would make a whole lot of people very, very upset.

I think FIRST has a bunker somewhere in NH that has been used for constant regolith game simulations since Lunacy. One day, when the time is right, and the game is perfected, it will be unleashed upon an unsuspecting (but sort of suspecting) population.

[Oblarg]

Originally Posted by SenorZ

I think FIRST has a bunker somewhere in NH that has been used for constant regolith game simulations since Lunacy. One day, when the time is right, and the game is perfected, it will be unleashed upon an unsuspecting (but sort of suspecting) population.

To be fair, regolith was only one of a great multitude of reasons why Lunacy was a terrible, terrible game.

But it was still a big one.

[JustbeingJFK]

I don't think it's confirmed but a slight possibly. The name FIRST Choice has been that for a long time so I don't think that's a hint but my team was talking about how the 3x3x60 object could be a net rolled up for a hockey goal.

[cbale2000]

If memory serves, Lunacy was also played using a brand new kind of control system for the robots (or at the very least the driver stations). Funny that we should also have a new control system this year...

[thinker&planner]

If they were to use Regolith or a similar surface that is not widely available, I would hope that they would include a sample in the kit. Didn't they do this for Lunacy?
There is nothing big enough for a robot to sit on in the described packages, unless it is rolled up in the 3x3x60" package.

[billbo911]

Originally Posted by Tom Line

I've long wanted a hockey game.

You and I are on the same page with that statement!

Originally Posted by Tom Line

They have pucks made for carpet that have internal fans and act as hover-craft, though I'm not sure if they'd be durable enough for our use.

The disk you linked to is a "Soccer" disk. That said, I think it could VERY EASILY be used in a FIRST game. Kinda get's the juices flowing just thinking about the possibilities!

Originally Posted by Tom Line

I think you have to make two assumptions about that package.

1. The length is necessary, which means it's not flexible.
2. It's not a common item like a hockey puck, stick, or PVC. If it were, they'd have us buy it ourselves. Even things like the tetras can be made out of PVC. This is something a little more exotic.

https://www.google.com/shopping/prod...ed=0CFMQpiswAQ

Both appear to be very accurate observations for the 3"X3"X60" package.

It could also be something as simple as a part donated by a sponsor.
A set of these rails with some packing material could very easily be in there.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ght=slide+rail

But, according to this post, it is not that part!

[Peyton Yeung]

I wouldn't mind regolith if we were still allowed treaded wheels. It would allow a puck to slide while keeping control of the robot

[nardavin]

Originally Posted by Peyton Yeung

I wouldn't mind regolith if we were still allowed treaded wheels. It would allow a puck to slide while keeping control of the robot

I would have to agree with that. I think a regolith game without robots sliding everywhere would be interesting

[Christopher149]

Originally Posted by cbale2000

If memory serves, Lunacy was also played using a brand new kind of control system for the robots (or at the very least the driver stations). Funny that we should also have a new control system this year...

Yes, Lunacy was the introduction of the cRIO and related hardware to replace the IFI control system. As a side note, it was the only year that the blue box driver stations were used, before switching to laptops.

[Thad House]

Originally Posted by Christopher149

Yes, Lunacy was the introduction of the cRIO and related hardware to replace the IFI control system. As a side note, it was the only year that the blue box driver stations were used, before switching to laptops.

Remember having to fix those stupid blue boxes to add better grounding... Glad those things only lasted one year. The laptops are way better.

[Wferr]

"One set of items, collectively 3 in. x 3 in. x 60 in., 6 lbs."
3, 3, 60/20 = 3 6 lbs/2 = 3 lbs

Half Life 3 Confirmed.

[Tom Line]

You also have to take safety into account.

This will NOT be a hockey game with normal pucks. Flying frisbees were scary enough and resulted in a few injuries. It's unlikely they are going to give us something like a hockey puck because shielding the entire arena would be really, really tough considering how hard robots could fire them. Also, remember that field cleanup has to be quick for fast game turn around. That limits the number of game pieces and type you can have. Super bouncy balls are out - even if it would be a REALLY interesting game to watch.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Tom Line

You also have to take safety into account.

This will NOT be a hockey game with normal pucks. Flying frisbees were scary enough and resulted in a few injuries. It's unlikely they are going to give us something like a hockey puck because shielding the entire arena would be really, really tough considering how hard robots could fire them. Also, remember that field cleanup has to be quick for fast game turn around. That limits the number of game pieces and type you can have. Super bouncy balls are out - even if it would be a REALLY interesting game to watch.

Who said that shooting would be allowed? All you gotta do to counter those is completely disallow shooting, or put a significant muzzle velocity limit, just enough to power-dump a cargo of gamepiece X into a goal that happens to be conducive to power-dumping. Or just design the goal such that it cannot be shot into without being in a particular zone, declare said zone to be a safe zone, and design the goal also to be rather impact-resistant.

Then add a nice, stiff penalty to said rule, say about 2x the maximum score a robot can legally carry, and you're all set.

[Poseidon5817]

https://mobile.twitter.com/FIRSTweet...08834932563968

[Shrub]

A possibility could be the rolled-up hockey nets for the 3x3x60 box, but I feel like they are much larger than that (and I am barely five feet tall).

My bet is that it's a field obstacle or field element of some sort that is necessary to be regulated amongst all teams. I'm pretty sure FIRST is backing down from having no field obstacles after seeing the damage caused in last years game.

Perhaps... It's something you throw Moon Rocks in?