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Re: Drills for ~$100
We picked up two of these Dewalt's on Black Friday.
We used both to build some shelving and they worked great! They come with a charger, two batteries, and a carrying bag. They have a built in light which can come in handy. http://www.lowes.com/pd_506283-70-DCD771C2_4294607728%2B4294926871__?productId=50040 962&Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1&pl=1¤tUR L=%3FNs%3Dp_product_qty_sales_dollar|1&facetInfo=D EWALT |
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You might want to cross shop on http://www.cpooutlets.com/drills/drills,default,sc.html (refurbished and new) to see which has the lower cost.
The top brands (Milwaukee, Makita, Dewalt) are pretty much comparable in quality. One construction pro has said the Rigid line should be avoided. I can't see any need for a hammerdrill in FRC unless you are doing masonry work. While they are good for light duty work (drilling into mortar for instance), they really don't work well at all for any "real" projects and should be replaced with a rotary hammer. Lion batteries are better than NiCd. There are a few top tier suppliers for each of the batteries and the major brands will source from the same companies. Last edited by protoserge : 13-12-2014 at 11:45. |
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We use these 18V dewalt drills:
http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DC970K-...s=dewalt+drill I don't know how they compare to the others people have mentioned but they work great for us. We have 3 drills so with a total of 6 batteries we can run them nonstop. They have good power(probably not as much as the 20V li-ion) but seems to be sufficient for FRC related tasks. They will put a few 1.125" holes using a uni-bit into quarter inch aluminum on a full charge but after that you'll need to put in a new battery. we're very happy with them so far. |
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The Li-ion drills marked "20V MAX" are a bit of a scam. Li-ion cells of the type used in drills have a nominal voltage of 3.6V. 5 cells in series gives 18V. So 20V isn't really possible. More investigation was needed.
I took a long hard look at one of the DeWalt 20V Max drills at Home Depot. In tiny letters on one face of the box read something like: BATTERIES ARE 20V MAX WITH NO LOAD AND WHEN FIRST REMOVED FROM CHARGER. NOMINAL IS 18V So Engineering says it's an 18V drill. Marketing says it's 20V MAX. |
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We also have the Dewalt DC970K and are considering buying two more on Amazon. $89 for me today.
For corded drills, the Black and Decker DR560 has been fine for us. Large drilling projects on our team are done using drill presses in the shop. |
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Construction professionals will hotly debate between the top brands (Milwaukee, Makita, Dewalt, Bosch, Porter Cable). The next tier down is Hitachi, Ridgid, Ryobi, Craftsman. Black and Decker and Skil are the bottom of the barrel. Like any other consumer product, most people will be happy, and a few will end up with lemons. Personally, I've just decided to go with Ridgid because they stand behind their products with a lifetime warranty. I figure I'll go with the company that puts their money where their mouth is. If any of the others decides to do likewise, I'll consider their stuff, too. I just got tired of throwing perfectly good drills in the dumpster because their expensive batteries died. We bought two of these sets yesterday. Registered them this morning. |
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I want to know if there are indicators that I can use to avoid getting another worthless one. If all I need to look at is brand, then that's good to know. I was going under the impression that a 12V Black and Decker would be a better investment than a 7.2V DeWalt, but it looks like everyone has just recommended that I look at brand over specs. I'm also assuming that Amperage is the most reliable factor when looking at corded drills, but if I should ignore that and focus on brand instead that makes things easier. A 4Amp Makita is a lot cheaper than a 10Amp Skil. |
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Go to the store and put your hands on them, how they feel is a great indicator of quality. |
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I might catch some for saying this but we use Dewalt and Ryobi. That said, I find myself picking up our Ryobi stuff more often. They are the 18v lithium-ion with the larger batteries. I find the battery life to be very good and have not found a single job at the shop it couldn't do; can't beat the price either. Some people will probably say the quality is low but we have had great luck with them so I can not hate on them. That being said, I own Dewalt and Makita at home and love them to, just way more money invested. I really find myself using the hand drills/drivers less and less. We have a couple nice drill presses, and using rivets, we do not need a driver as much. I would strongly recommend getting one of the nice 12V sets and then investing in a very nice vise for your drill press. If you can use the drill press, use it over the drill.
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We have a few of these DeWalt Cordless Drills which we got just before the 2014 build season and they've lasted us all season through heavy use and abuse without failing. As others have said this is just our experience and your milage may vary.
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Yeah, I just don't know what indicates good performance vs. bad performance. I have been thinking that 18V is going to be significantly superior to 12V, but a lot of people have recommended the latter here. I was also hoping to use stats like stall torque or horsepower to make a decision on, but those are only listed on certain drills from certain manufacturers.
I guess I could always get the same DeWalt that we have now and an extra battery. That way we can always have a battery charging. |
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My personal advice would be to dull the cutting edge of your drill bits as well. It will make them safer since they will not grab thin material. |
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Edit: took a minute, but I found a thread VERY relevant to the topic of dull drill bits: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...?postid=935748 Much, much easier to teach proper techniques for drilling and/or getting the right bits than to dull the bits and hope nothing like this happens to a student or mentor. Last edited by JamesCH95 : 15-12-2014 at 14:34. |
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