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Re: Introducing Game Management System

I used it last year at Mount Olive for Robot Inspection and found it very useful. It makes the inspection manager's life much easier too.

There is a learning curve, which takes a little getting used to, and for inspections it assumes you are using the workflow generally suggested by FIRST. It makes it a LOT easier to keep track of teams, where they are (in the pits), where they are (in the process), and what each team still needs to pass final inspection. In this respect, it is somewhat better than paper.

In a different respect, it is far superior: Communicating. When the LRI on the field sees something, they snap a photo and set the team to "reinspect". Before the team even makes it back to the pits, an inspector is waiting for them, and knows exactly what to look at and help the team work through. Everything is stored, and can be referred to later.

Also, photos at weigh-in are proof of what was and wasn't on the robot. If a gizmo was added but not inspected, it's hard to refute a photo.

As for an Apple version, I vote no. A decent android tablet is very inexpensive compared to the least expensive iPad. Not worth the time and red tape, IMHO. At MAR events it is not BYO, the tablets are provided to volunteer staff. Standard hardware simplifies things.
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I used it last year at Mount Olive for Robot Inspection and found it very useful. It makes the inspection manager's life much easier too.

There is a learning curve, which takes a little getting used to, and for inspections it assumes you are using the workflow generally suggested by FIRST. It makes it a LOT easier to keep track of teams, where they are (in the pits), where they are (in the process), and what each team still needs to pass final inspection. In this respect, it is somewhat better than paper.

In a different respect, it is far superior: Communicating. When the LRI on the field sees something, they snap a photo and set the team to "reinspect". Before the team even makes it back to the pits, an inspector is waiting for them, and knows exactly what to look at and help the team work through. Everything is stored, and can be referred to later.

Also, photos at weigh-in are proof of what was and wasn't on the robot. If a gizmo was added but not inspected, it's hard to refute a photo.

As for an Apple version, I vote no. A decent android tablet is very inexpensive compared to the least expensive iPad. Not worth the time and red tape, IMHO. At MAR events it is not BYO, the tablets are provided to volunteer staff. Standard hardware simplifies things.
They were giving out Nexus Tablets for us to use. I am highly against "renting out' expensive tablets to volunteers as they have a high probability of walking during the event. Give out the program to use on their own devices of find a less expensive alternative.
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They were giving out Nexus Tablets for us to use. I am highly against "renting out' expensive tablets to volunteers as they have a high probability of walking during the event. Give out the program to use on their own devices of find a less expensive alternative.
Sticker on the back, sign out sheet, if it's not there at the end of the day you cough up the money?
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Sticker on the back, sign out sheet, if it's not there at the end of the day you cough up the money?
Most of my volunteers are broke college kids. There is no way they are paying up for a lost tablet.
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Most of my volunteers are broke college kids. There is no way they are paying up for a lost tablet.
I hear you... We (MAR) were fortunate to have nice tablets. At Ruckus, I was expecting your Queuers to use their own phones. People seem to take better care of their own property...

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GMS can be downloaded for free on most Android devices. Prices are dropping for Android devices. If you are buying tablets, just make sure the battery is good for a full day's operation.

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As for an Apple version, I vote no. A decent android tablet is very inexpensive compared to the least expensive iPad. Not worth the time and red tape, IMHO. At MAR events it is not BYO, the tablets are provided to volunteer staff. Standard hardware simplifies things.
You are right, but I was considering an IOS version for people that bring their own devices. Not every region/district would supply their volunteers with tablets. MAR is unusual in that it actually cares about the volunteers having a positive experience during the event.

Strangely, though 80% of the world uses Android, 80% of the FIRST community seems to use Apple. Wonder what that implies...

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We have too much money here in the Northeast Mid-Atlantic?
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Re: Introducing Game Management System

As an inspector at The MAR Mt Olive event, the GMS allowed our process to work much quicker and allowed any inspector to follow up on any teams inspection at any time. The ability to visit any pit and have everything with us helped alot. Knowing which team was ready, in process of, or being completely inspected was shown on the pit map on the tablet. The information available and having the game manual in the tablet also helped. There were a few teams with major inspections items were the information in the tablet was essential, yet wasn't overwhelming. It's amazing how many teams do not have a game manual with them. The queuing system also worked great from what I have heard. Looking forward to using it again, Thanks Raj
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