2015 HINT DISCUSSION

[April_robo]

Champs is getting bigger if they go to 600 teams you can't have 6 divisions so something has to give. Also MSC is doubling the amount of teams. Both of these events take place in the same timeframe as before but with many more teams.

[PopeRyanI]

I think smaller alliances but three (triangle)

[Oblarg]

I will bet with very good odds that the size/number of alliances is not changing.

[tcallan]

Lets all remember after last years game reveal how everyone thought the game was unfinished. Teams halfway expected the GDC to add something midway through the season, especially since the truss was so over-designed for something we weren't allowed to touch. What if something caused the GDC to use that game prematurely and now this year they are going to add to it and "finish" it, therefore recycling the game. I mean frank did recycle the *2014* manual...

Mini bots on the truss anyone

[mman1506]

Originally Posted by zinthorne

I was just going to point that out. Why use that wording? None of the other captions say FIRST TIME or SINCE 1992. May I point out that the part about the carpet field is in section 2.2.1 of the 2014 manual. He was on the second page, and then he seems to put back a page...

Technically a number of games have had secondary field surfaces that were not carpet (bridges 2012, ramps 2006 .ETC)

[Jacob Bendicksen]

Originally Posted by mrnoble

Almost every bit of the footage showed something happening at the highest height that each year shown reached for. It seems pretty straightforward on that front: we will be going high this year, probably with an elevator. Taller maximum starting configuration? High goal at 15'?

I suspect that they are serious that there will be unprecedented changes to the robots and game play this year. We won't be cruising through build season, I think.

The height thing is an interesting observation, and I think one that we should pay attention to. Could this be related to the oddly long and thin item in the Kit of Parts?

[AdamStockton]

Originally Posted by dodar

Primary is used because in 2005 they had a "secondary" field surface of metal for the platforms used for the endgame.

The 2009 field surface also had a 1ft perimeter of carpet. This could also be why the word primary was used, since there were technically 2 field surfaces that year.

[Wayne TenBrink]

First (and only) Rule of Game Hints: They are useless for figuring out the game.

Purpose of Game Hints: Create some excitement about the new game (the theme of which cannot be determined from the clue). This hint accomplishes that task.

My guesses on the game clue: It isn't about the specific game. Something about the robot rules or tournament format will change:

1) The controller is new this year. (Old news. Moot point for a clue)
2) Match length will change.
3) New floor (something that lasts longer than carpet in the 6 CIM age)
4) No more 6 CIM drive trains.
5) No more 6 week build deadline - no "bag day"
6) OK to "recycle" fabricated components. Re-use old drive trains.
7) Moderately different field size. They are modular and it would be easy to change.
8) Four robot alliances on a wider field.
9) The DJ's will not be allowed to play "Cotton Eyed Joe", "YMCA", or "The Chicken Dance"

[dodar]

Originally Posted by Wayne TenBrink

First (and only) Rule of Game Hints: They are useless for figuring out the game.

Purpose of Game Hints: Create some excitement about the new game (the theme of which cannot be determined from the clue). This hint accomplishes that task.

My guesses on the game clue: It isn't about the specific game. Something about the robot rules or tournament format will change:

1) The controller is new this year. (Old news. Moot point for a clue)
2) Match length will change.
3) New floor (something that lasts longer than carpet in the 6 CIM age)
4) No more 6 CIM drive trains.
5) No more 6 week build deadline - no "bag day"
6) OK to "recycle" fabricated components. Re-use old drive trains.
7) Moderately different field size. They are modular and it would be easy to change.
8) Four robot alliances on a wider field.
9) The DJ's will not be allowed to play "Cotton Eyed Joe", "YMCA", or "The Chicken Dance"

9b)In lieu of these song restrictions, only Darude-Sandstorm is to be played.

[Oblarg]

Originally Posted by Wayne TenBrink

9) The DJ's will not be allowed to play "Cotton Eyed Joe", "YMCA", or "The Chicken Dance"

There would be a mutiny.

[icecube45]

Originally Posted by dodar

9b)In lieu of these song restrictions, only Darude-Sandstorm is to be played.

I nominate walk the dinosaur as well

[JB987]

Originally Posted by Wayne TenBrink

First (and only) Rule of Game Hints: They are useless for figuring out the game.

Purpose of Game Hints: Create some excitement about the new game (the theme of which cannot be determined from the clue). This hint accomplishes that task.

My guesses on the game clue: It isn't about the specific game. Something about the robot rules or tournament format will change:

1) The controller is new this year. (Old news. Moot point for a clue)
2) Match length will change.
3) New floor (something that lasts longer than carpet in the 6 CIM age)
4) No more 6 CIM drive trains.
5) No more 6 week build deadline - no "bag day"
6) OK to "recycle" fabricated components. Re-use old drive trains.
7) Moderately different field size. They are modular and it would be easy to change.
8) Four robot alliances on a wider field.
9) The DJ's will not be allowed to play "Cotton Eyed Joe", "YMCA", or "The Chicken Dance"

With so many events taking place in smaller venues (high school gyms) it would be hard to make field wider.

[mdituri]

change ball
http://www.theodmgroup.com/2010/11/0...with-purchase/

[Wyatt Jordan]

Ok so I think the Hocky game holds some merit, its a big sport that FRC has overlooked, I mean we've had soccer and basketball, baseball is kind of overlooked because it's really just throwing a ball and Aim High was kind of that game. Also if you google "most popular sports" you get this:

"Overview[edit] The most popular team sports in the United States are American football, basketball, baseball/softball, soccer, and ice hockey."

So we're only missing hockey also a shout out to TalHolm who added up all the differences between the years with subtitles and got 19, the most retired NHL number. And I also believe we will see the Lunacy surface again if it is a hockey game.

Also for the 2001 game Diabolical Dynamics the subtitle was "Robots race against the clock" you're telling me none of the challenges before that had a time limit? How did they end? Can someone check this for me, did you have to score a certain amount to end the game?

[pandamonium]

I am 99% positive the first part of the video was literally recycled. They played that exact video at championships!

Why would they do that?
A. To further emphasize Recycle
B. To fill time the length of the video 1 min is important

Thoughts?