2015 HINT DISCUSSION

[Mike Marandola]

Originally Posted by theawesome1730

Did anyone else catch that the video is in 4:3 aspect ratio? FIRST has posted 16:9 videos for a while now. 4:3 could be a throwback to older games?

They probably just didn't want black bars for 3/4s of the clips.

[Chief Hedgehog]

I would like to see a triangular field with each side playing host to both a Red and Blue driver's station. That would mix things up a bit.

[Duffy509]

Originally Posted by theawesome1730

Did anyone else catch that the video is in 4:3 aspect ratio? FIRST has posted 16:9 videos for a while now. 4:3 could be a throwback to older games?

43 seconds is 2012, rebound rumble in which there where 4 nets and a 3pt line.
4 times 3=12

[arizonafoxx]

In 97 and 99 was the field and game piece really the same. In the video it looks like the exact same game. The camera shot is even almost the same. Field size appears to be the same. Can someone verify that played those years.

[Kwolfe]

Originally Posted by theawesome1730

Did anyone else catch that the video is in 4:3 aspect ratio? FIRST has posted 16:9 videos for a while now. 4:3 could be a throwback to older games?

This could be hinting at 4 alliances of 3 teams.

[MichelB]

Or with each side having an alliance (three alliances) or having one not per side with three bots totally (doing away with alliances).

[sarahbellum123]

in 2005, they introduced 3v3. with the way the program is growing, i would not be at all surprised if they change it so alliances now have 4 teams each...4v4??? yikes.

[Short Stuff]

Originally Posted by dodar

You can also see a field marker reflected onto the wall behind the recycling bin. It looks as if the field may be split into 3 sections again.

It depends on what part of the field the video was filmed on. It does seem that parts of old games will be recycled. The triangle comments that have been made throughout may be referring back to the tetrahedrons that will be used again, along with possibly the lack of end game from last year

[Landonh12]

Originally Posted by sarahbellum123

in 2005, they introduced 3v3. with the way the program is growing, i would not be at all surprised if they change it so alliances now have 4 teams each...4v4??? yikes.

I could definitely see this happening. Worlds is going to have more teams this year, quoting Frank "540 to 600". Add another team on each winning alliance and you get more teams in St. Louis.

[XenObliv]

Maybe auto mode will be different
Longer?

[Rangel(kf7fdb)]

Originally Posted by Landonh12

I could definitely see this happening. Worlds is going to have more teams this year, quoting Frank "540 to 600". Add another team on each winning alliance and you get more teams in St. Louis.

I don't think that's quite right. If I understand, the issue is space and adding more teams per alliance wouldn't really allow for more teams at St. Louis.

[RegaCaska]

Originally Posted by arizonafoxx

In 97 and 99 was the field and game piece really the same. In the video it looks like the exact same game. The camera shot is even almost the same. Field size appears to be the same. Can someone verify that played those years.

Looking at the video you are right.

Also, looking at old videos on youtube for those years, it looks like 1999 is wrong based off of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CDop_IwW8

[Mr V]

Originally Posted by Rangel(kf7fdb)

I don't think that's quite right. If I understand, the issue is space and adding more teams per alliance wouldn't really allow for more teams at St. Louis.

It has already been determined that there will be between 540 and 600 teams at CMP. Making 4 team alliances would mean that most Regionals would send 7 teams. So that is a way to get more teams to earn a spot at CMP w/o dipping into the wait list too significantly.

On the other hand with districts a 4 team alliance will not work to have a full 4 round elimination bracket in a number of cases.

[Duffy509]

Originally Posted by RegaCaska

Looking at the video you are right.

Also, looking at old videos on youtube for those years, it looks like 1999 is wrong based off of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CDop_IwW8

Could this just be a mistake that they used the 97 game for 99 clip, or is this supposed to direct us back two years aerial assist?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by arizonafoxx

In 97 and 99 was the field and game piece really the same. In the video it looks like the exact same game. The camera shot is even almost the same. Field size appears to be the same. Can someone verify that played those years.

No, they most emphatically were NOT. Not in any way, shape, or form.

1997 was played in similar manner to 2007 and 2011: place tubes on scoring structure. Only... it was 1v1v1 on a hexagonal field.

1999, better known as Double Trouble, was 2v2 on a square field. Take your "floppies" (think a flat bean-bag chair full of styrofoam peanuts with some velcro), raise 'em over 8' from the floor and hold 'em there at the end of match. Move large flat "puck" around the field and park on it for more points (2x for puck position, not sure about parking on it).