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Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION

In 2015 Lithuania will officially switch to the euro as its currency. In other words its change will change, and that change is coming. Now, the World Bank lists the literacy rate of Lithuanians 15 years of age and older as 100%. 100 degrees Celsius is the boiling point of water.

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Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION

The 97-99 switch was not accidental. If it was accidental, they would probably have the same clip. It is from the same match (or at least the same teams), but from different times during that match.

In those games you got higher points for lifting things higher. Arm game with no height limits?
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The 97-99 switch was not accidental.
Judging by the "Whoops!" response on the blog post, yes it was.
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Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION

I didn't read through all of the thread, but there seemed to be a lot of speculation on 3 alliances with a triangular field. Obviously, a lot of people have already pointed out the issues with a triangular field (cost of building all new fields, the AndyMark field).

But it got me thinking of 3 alliances and hire you wet hold prevent a 2v1 scenario. Pure speculation/wishful thinking, but what about 3 alliances of two robots, with the drive teams split so your alliance member was on the other side of the field. Some sort of cooperation game (Recycling the assist concept?), But with an added twist... Some sort of bonus or multiplier that can be earned by one half of the field (ie half of each alliance) working together at least partly. It would add a whole other level to game strategy that we haven't really seen... Like the coopertition bridge, but more in depth.
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Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION

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I didn't read through all of the thread, but there seemed to be a lot of speculation on 3 alliances with a triangular field. Obviously, a lot of people have already pointed out the issues with a triangular field (cost of building all new fields, the AndyMark field).

But it got me thinking of 3 alliances and hire you wet hold prevent a 2v1 scenario. Pure speculation/wishful thinking, but what about 3 alliances of two robots, with the drive teams split so your alliance member was on the other side of the field. Some sort of cooperation game (Recycling the assist concept?), But with an added twist... Some sort of bonus or multiplier that can be earned by one half of the field (ie half of each alliance) working together at least partly. It would add a whole other level to game strategy that we haven't really seen... Like the coopertition bridge, but more in depth.
I think this would negatively effect game play by not being able to communicate with your alliance partners during the match. We'd actually lose a lot of the cooperation that was gained from Aerial Assist that a lot of people enjoyed(granted, some didn't enjoy it) and end up back to a game where the robots just do their own thing.
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Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION

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Judging by the "Whoops!" response on the blog post, yes it was.
That's the thing about text and not voice communication... you never know when someone is being sarcastic.

He could mean it and say it really was a mistake, but FIRST puts time into these things, so I doubt it was an actual accident.
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Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION

I like what I'm hearing about those lights on poles in the long box.

Got me thinking including the word change....


What if those are pole lights..... and they denote your team colour.... and at somepoint in the match all the lights switch around and the teams change?????? That would be a major thing and a huge challenge to teams to have to work with everyone on the field and play against everyone on the field at the same time.
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I like what I'm hearing about those lights on poles in the long box.

Got me thinking including the word change....


What if those are pole lights..... and they denote your team colour.... and at somepoint in the match all the lights switch around and the teams change?????? That would be a major thing and a huge challenge to teams to have to work with everyone on the field and play against everyone on the field at the same time.
How would you determine a winner?
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Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION

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How would you determine a winner?
Maybe based on a robots individual contribution to the overall score? Kinda the same way assist points were given out?

EDIT: maybe something like, 1 way to score for everyone. but a multiplier for doing said task with the right coloured robots.

For example, if the task takes 3 robots, and all 3 robots are red. then x3 multiplier. but if 2 were red and 1 was blue that completed the task then only x2 multiplier. All robots that complete the task get the points. and at the end the top 3 robots of the match are the winners.

This way the task can be done with anyone, but promotes teams to communicate with the whole field to accomplish a task for the most multiplier. A team with a strong bot still has to work with the rest of the field in order to win.

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He could mean it and say it really was a mistake, but FIRST puts time into these things, so I doubt it was an actual accident.
From my observations, people on Chief Delphi vastly overestimate the complexity of these game hints. They're always obtuse and generally unhelpful, sure, but usually fairly simple and straightforward once you "figure them out."

I have never seen speculation about game information in tiny details like that pan out, so I'm fairly confident that it was, indeed, a mistake.
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Maybe based on a robots individual contribution to the overall score? Kinda the same way assist points were given out?
Were assist points actually done by robot? I thought they were done by total alliance assists.
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Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION

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Were assist points actually done by robot? I thought they were done by total alliance assists.
When the match scores went up they were for the whole alliance, but seeding took into account the assist points the robot made.
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Were assist points actually done by robot? I thought they were done by total alliance assists.
This is true. I changed my thought process to my above post quite a bit now lol.
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Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION

Pause the video at 34 seconds in. Notice the wording. "Primary field surface isn't carpet for the FIRST time since 1992"

That was the ONLY time, but due to that wording, I'm thinking we get a weird surface this year.
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