2015 HINT DISCUSSION

[rlowe61]

After doing extensive analysis of the video, trolling this thread of nearly 400 comments (many repetitive), and many other threads related to game hints, etc…..
In my opinion (we all know what they say about opinions)
1. The missing 1999 video we have all figured out is intentional and we’ll be playing some variation of that game.
2. The long tube in the kit of parts will hold a fiberglass pole(or multiple poles) with a colored or numbered flag (bicycle flag for us older people)
3. The recycle bin utilized in the video did not have any text on it, only the symbol. This to me was not so much for recycling, as repeating. There has been speculation for years about making a game Auto/Tele/Auto. Why not, it would show how good your driver is to get back to the correct position and orientation for a follow-on Auto, or demonstrate your programming and use of sensors by leaving the robot anywhere and having it locate itself.
4. Or the symbol, could be 2v2v2…..I just throw that in for fun….we are too set on our 3v3 on a rectangular field. And there are too many teams who have built and/or purchased rectangular fields to mess with that.

Now that we have all beat the proverbial dead horse, let’s all relax for a few days before the madness really begins.

[K-Dawg157]

What if we started a new view on this matter...

I have read all 390 posts, and everyone seems to be focusing on what has changed for FIRST over the past 23 years...

What if we look at what has been the same?

One part of the games have stayed the same consistently throughout every game.

Just a thought for new perspective. Because if you think about it, "Change is coming" could mean they're doing something they've never ever done before... So what have they done every single year?

There's only ever been one game piece. Different colors, sure, but the same size/ shape. What if there's multiple and that's the change?

Just a thought, a lot of people seem to be over thinking it.

[Michael Hill]

Originally Posted by K-Dawg157

What if we started a new view on this matter...

I have read all 390 posts, and everyone seems to be focusing on what has changed for FIRST over the past 23 years...

What if we look at what has been the same?

One part of the games have stayed the same consistently throughout every game.

Just a thought for new perspective. Because if you think about it, "Change is coming" could mean they're doing something they've never ever done before... So what have they done every single year?

There's only ever been one game piece. Different colors, sure, but the same size/ shape. What if there's multiple and that's the change?

Just a thought, a lot of people seem to be over thinking it.

2004 had different sizes of balls robots had to manipulate

[The_ShamWOW88]

Originally Posted by Michael Hill

2004 had different sizes of balls robots had to manipulate

1996 had two different size balls too...

[K-Dawg157]

Originally Posted by Michael Hill

2004 had different sizes of balls robots had to manipulate

That's still the same shape though...

[The_ShamWOW88]

Originally Posted by K-Dawg157

That's still the same shape though...

You're right that there's never been two completely different types of game pieces.

You could consider the goals in 2002 acting as game pieces, IMO, because they would only score if placed in a particular zone.

[Lledargo]

Originally Posted by K-Dawg157

What if we started a new view on this matter...

I have read all 390 posts, and everyone seems to be focusing on what has changed for FIRST over the past 23 years...

What if we look at what has been the same?

One part of the games have stayed the same consistently throughout every game.

Just a thought for new perspective. Because if you think about it, "Change is coming" could mean they're doing something they've never ever done before... So what have they done every single year?

There's only ever been one game piece. Different colors, sure, but the same size/ shape. What if there's multiple and that's the change?

Just a thought, a lot of people seem to be over thinking it.

Conversely, I think they will take away games pieces, and they robots will be expected to interact more with the field and other robots.

For example, there may be a puzzle or maze on the field requiring robots to cooperate to complete it in a timely manner. Someone suggested a fencing game when I proposed no game pieces on reddit.

[John Weissman]

Did anyone notice the hight of the side rail? It looks twice as high than the last few challenges, or am I seeing things wrong?

[The_ShamWOW88]

Originally Posted by John Weissman

Did anyone notice the hight of the side rail? It looks twice as high than the last few challenges, or am I seeing things wrong?

No you're seeing right, the side rail is to about Frank's midsection which makes it considerably higher.

I'm not taking too much from that but it could mean a considerable field change.

[Shifter]

Maybe the hint is only meant to convey the name of the 2015 game.

Video of previous year's challenges could be seen as "flashback". Mention of change coming is "foreshadowing".

Game name "Flash Forward"?

What would this have to do with the actual game? Perhaps a zoned field - a robot's turn to play in the "forward" zone would be indicated by flashing lights:

Originally Posted by T3_1565

I like what I'm hearing about those lights on poles in the long box.

Got me thinking including the word change....


What if those are pole lights..... and they denote your team colour.... and at somepoint in the match all the lights switch around and the teams change??????

[MooreteP]

Originally Posted by John Weissman

Did anyone notice the hight of the side rail? It looks twice as high than the last few challenges, or am I seeing things wrong?

Originally Posted by The_ShamWOW88

No you're seeing right, the side rail is to about Frank's midsection which makes it considerably higher.

I'm not taking too much from that but it could mean a considerable field change.

Read the thread.
Been discussed.

[The_ShamWOW88]

Originally Posted by MooreteP

Read the thread.
Been discussed.

Ow....

[RunawayEngineer]

In regards to the height of the field barrier looking higher than normal:
It is a result of a weird camera angle.
I did an approximation of the the height of the barrier based on the length of the vertical section and the width of the tubing as seen in the video. I think that the tubing in previous years is 2" in diameter (someone can correct me on that).
With that assumption, the height of what is shown is 20.8". There is a little bit cut off by the edge of the screen, but this demonstrates that there won't be much deviation from the 20" that we are familiar with.
Frankly, I'm saddened that someone else didn't already figure this out. Simple math.

[K-Dawg157]

Originally Posted by MooreteP

Read the thread.
Been discussed.

This was a little rude... netiquette is nice. Some people do celebrate Christmas Eve and don't have time to read 400+ posts to see what's already been said, but still want their opinion out there...

[plnyyanks]

Merry Christmas, from post 354

Originally Posted by EricH

Neither. He's standing in midfield and the camera is angled funny. Try it yourself: Put a bar at knee-high, stand several feet in front of it, then have a friend take your picture with the camera up around the top of their head and pointing near your chest. You should be able to have the bar end up at about hip height (or higher, maybe) before it's obvious that the camera is high.