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Re: [FF]: 2015 Season Long Fantasy FIRST: Traditional League

OK, I'm back online, I think. (crosses fingers).

Which means that I'll be putting up MAR as soon as I can get a team list put together.


For Ed: The options we really had were to run every single district (all 48 or so of them) or group them in some way. Now, 48 drafts is about 24 days of drafting, at 2/day, which puts us either with a November 1st start or with a finish around Week 3 of build. So, I'm utilizing a block system to try to give everybody a fair(ish) shot at putting together a powerful alliance. The attempt is to give everybody as many teams as reasonable (in MI's case, we could probably be doing 10 rounds if we wanted to) in each district. Scores will be averaged (mean score) across all district events played in. Unless... Any of the scorers want to try to normalize to two district events?


I intend to implement one trade rule for the block drafts: Can't trade a team with >1 play in or out. Gotta have only one play, or zero. (Translation: draft a clunker, you got one shot to drop 'em. Notice everybody missed a dark horse, got one shot to grab 'em.)
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Re: [FF]: 2015 Season Long Fantasy FIRST: Traditional League

MAR randoms:
To save y'all's screens, I'm only puttin' up the top 50. Suffice it to say, there's a lot more where those came from.
834
4373
41
4342
4575
3637
87
1403
5080
4460
1257
5624
5113
103
5490
1228
2070
4361
102
2554
1712
816
2590
2729
708
714
4637
2539
5684
5407
433
3515
555
2095
222
5733
3314
2495
219
4475
1279
1391
303
304
896
2607
365
341
203
1672
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Re: [FF]: 2015 Season Long Fantasy FIRST: Traditional League

You post the teams as Code.
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Re: [FF]: 2015 Season Long Fantasy FIRST: Traditional League

One final call for a draft runner in the regular season:

The Pacific Northwest is supposed to start tomorrow, running across New Year's Eve (off night, folks) and onto New Year's. That being said, I've had some family stuff come up that's going to throw my running of New England into question for starting on time, or at all, on 1/1/15 if I run it.

So...

Here's what I'm thinkin'. I've got two lists (Frog Farce and PureMI if they've updated their stuff) for both drafts. I will forward list or link no later than 15 minutes before draft start if someone is running either of those.

Plan A is that someone steps up for one or the other. Plan B is that I take PNW with a late start tomorrow, say about half an hour, and/or New England (with a draft opening on 12/31 if I do run it, rather than 1/1).

I have been working on some updates to the draft runner, and will be testing them out tomorrow--expect an updated version to be released if they work.
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Re: [FF]: 2015 Season Long Fantasy FIRST: Traditional League

PNW Draft Day 1 Randoms:
Code:
4173
3238
2412
949
1258
2906
3237
492
3831
3192
2927
2635
4980
1571
3681
4579
3220
5468
4127
2555
4469
4057
3673
4682
4082
4918
1294
2411
5497
5085
3221
4180
4104
1899
5588
2733
3575
2929
957
2915
847
5450
360
2550
948
3131
4125
1510
3636
1432
4681
3781
4726
1425
5683
2903
3049
3223
4110
3968
4061
1359
5748
4461
2471
2976
4304
997
4030
2930
2660
1540
2923
2928
3711
2910
955
3588
2907
3219
3663
2517
4495
4513
4488
5779
3693
2557
4683
4662
3576
2374
4131
4911
2002
3393
3070
4542
2192
3574
3876
2093
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1595
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4450
3786
2811
2521
4120
3826
4132
2944
2148
4205
3586
2046
4692
3789
4915
3787
2605
1778
2147
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4309
3268
4654
4060
3812
4043
1318
1983
956
3024
488
2980
3218
5495
3674
3712
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753
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Re: [FF]: 2015 Season Long Fantasy FIRST: Traditional League

Given that development...

I'll go ahead and open New England on 12/31, for drafting 1/1 and 1/2. Family schedule is still being worked out.



Thinking ahead: I'll try to work out the schedule for District Championship drafts before Kickoff, with a "subject to change" notice attached. They'll be between the last week of the district events and the district championship.

Thinking farther ahead: Championship draft will be by division again, but exact schedule--other than "between District Championships and Championship"--is TBD.
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Re: [FF]: 2015 Season Long Fantasy FIRST: Traditional League

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I intend to implement one trade rule for the block drafts: Can't trade a team with >1 play in or out. Gotta have only one play, or zero. (Translation: draft a clunker, you got one shot to drop 'em. Notice everybody missed a dark horse, got one shot to grab 'em.)
I don't understand this. So, when can you swap out a team? before teams have played? After 2 plays?
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Re: [FF]: 2015 Season Long Fantasy FIRST: Traditional League

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I don't understand this. So, when can you swap out a team? before teams have played? After 2 plays?
You can swap teams out/in up until their second play.
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Re: [FF]: 2015 Season Long Fantasy FIRST: Traditional League

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You can swap teams out/in up until their second play.
Correct. This allows for some of the flexibility of the older district drafts--draft the same team 3 times, they clunk their first time you can drop them for someone else--while still maintaining a more fair playfield, as you don't know what the team's score will be for their next event.

So, I have 217. If they lay an egg at their first event, I can trade them for any team that hasn't played yet, or has played once. But if I trade them after their second event, or if the team I trade for has played twice, it's an invalid trade.
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Re: [FF]: 2015 Season Long Fantasy FIRST: Traditional League

If I trade a team that has played once with a team that has notyet played, do I get points for both events?

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Re: [FF]: 2015 Season Long Fantasy FIRST: Traditional League

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If I trade a team that has played once with a team that has notyet played, do I get points for both events?

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The way we'll work it is this: Whatever teams you have at the END of the season are the ones that will give you points. So, to go with the above example: If I trade 217 for 201 (yeah, I know I have both of them, just making a point), I'll get the points for 201 but not 217. Unless I add 217 back in for another team before they've played a second time...

That being said, you'll hopefully know the pointage for the teams each week.
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Re: [FF]: 2015 Season Long Fantasy FIRST: Traditional League

So, if 217 lays and egg week 1, and 201 gets CA or is the magic 3rd winner, and you switch, do you get those winner points from 201 week 1?

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So, if 217 lays and egg week 1, and 201 gets CA or is the magic 3rd winner, and you switch, do you get those winner points from 201 week 1?

-IKE
Correct.

BUT... remember that the points are averaged (or normalized, if the scorers want to do it that way), so if 201 lays an egg in Week X and 217 does the whole "dominate at more than one event" thing after Week 1, then you might actually be worse off. Your choice, of course.
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I have been working on some updates to the draft runner, and will be testing them out tomorrow--expect an updated version to be released if they work.
They didn't. Not fully, at any rate. I was a little late on some updates--that would be because I was trying the old "fix it on the fly" routine. *goes back into programming cave*

On the other hand, I now have a VERY good idea why some of the runners have seen crashes when trying to do some actions, having just about crashed myself. And it's a really sneaky little bug, one that wouldn't be obvious at all.


Enjoy the off-day tomorrow; New England will go up a day early.
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Re: [FF]: 2015 Season Long Fantasy FIRST: Traditional League

So what is the drafting schedule for NE and Indiana?
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