2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

[vps]

Originally Posted by 216Robochick288

My problem with the golden totes in auton being worth only 2... Grey bins in Teleop are worth only 2. Arent auton scores always worth more?

I don't think you can get Teleop points in auto. What do the rest of yall think?

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by vps

I don't think you can get Teleop points in auto. What do the rest of yall think?

Points for gray totes are rewarded at the end of the match.

[216Robochick288]

Grey totes aside, lets look at the gold ones. lets have 0 be a golden tote and ___ be the ground. Ill give you the situations I see happening.



___0___0___0____ =?


.....0
___0________0___=?


...0
...0
__0________=?

How many points would each situation be worth in auton? Would it be 6 (2 points each) on the first, or 18 points, 6 per.

Would the second be worth 20+6 (one stack one alone)? 20+2(this would be if scoring totes alone in auton are only worth 2)?

Would the last only be worth 20? It seems like quite a feat to get 3 stacked in auton. Im sure we will see it, but it seems insignificant if you look at what you can score after Teleop starts.

[BryceKarlins]

I couldn't find anything in the rules (haven't read entire thing tho), can we open the totes and stack them inside of each other?

[cgmv123]

Originally Posted by BryceKarlins

I couldn't find anything in the rules (haven't read entire thing tho), can we open the totes and stack them inside of each other?

G16 Blue Box, Item C.

[216Robochick288]

Originally Posted by BryceKarlins

I couldn't find anything in the rules (haven't read entire thing tho), can we open the totes and stack them inside of each other?

They are intended to be closed- THey are zip tied shut.

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by 216Robochick288

Grey totes aside, lets look at the gold ones. lets have 0 be a golden tote and ___ be the ground. Ill give you the situations I see happening.



___0___0___0____ =?


.....0
___0________0___=?


...0
...0
__0________=?

How many points would each situation be worth in auton? Would it be 6 (2 points each) on the first, or 18 points, 6 per.

Would the second be worth 20+6 (one stack one alone)? 20+2(this would be if scoring totes alone in auton are only worth 2)?

Would the last only be worth 20? It seems like quite a feat to get 3 stacked in auton. Im sure we will see it, but it seems insignificant if you look at what you can score after Teleop starts.

Assuming this is in the auto zone, they would be worth 6, 6, 20.

Please read page 19 of the manual.

[Skyehawk]

You're forgetting a situation:

......0
___0 0________ = ? (I believe this is a void configuration resulting in 6pts,
however there was not an example given to this
situation in the manual.)

anyways here is how I see the scoring of the yellow totes alone in their respective situations (assuming they are compleatly contained by the auto zones):


___0___0___0____ = 6pts


.....0
___0________0___= 6pts


...0
...0
__0________= 20pts (possibly 26, depending is a stack and a set can
simultaneously exist)

[ATannahill]

A similar situation is called out at the bottom of page 19. They are not in a single column and do not meet point A of being a stack.

[216Robochick288]

Originally Posted by Skyehawk

You're forgetting a situation:

......0
___0 0________ = ? (I believe this is a void configuration resulting in 6pts,
however there was not an example given to this
situation in the manual.)

Okay, so that is considered a TOTE SET, which is defined by 3 golden totes in the auton area.

The CONTAINER SET is the tall recycling bins, NOT the totes. 3 of the large bins in the scoring area count for 8 points.

A STACKED TOTE SET are all 3 golden totes stacked on top of each other as per figure 3-1 , or 3.1.2.1 in the rules.

It appears, though I may be wrong, that 2 totes or two bins dont count?

[normaldude8825]

I wish to confirm I am interpreting the following rule correctly:
LITTER Scored in/on RECYCLING CONTAINER 6 per RECYCLING CONTAINER

I am understanding that we are allowed to have various Recycling Containers one next to another and have one piece of Litter lying on top of these Recycling Containers instead of inserting one Litter per Recycling Container.

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by normaldude8825

I wish to confirm I am interpreting the following rule correctly:
LITTER Scored in/on RECYCLING CONTAINER 6 per RECYCLING CONTAINER

I am understanding that we are allowed to have various Recycling Containers one next to another and have one piece of Litter lying on top of these Recycling Containers instead of inserting one Litter per Recycling Container.

You may score the litter on, not in the recycling container. The weight of the litter must be supported by a scored container.

[Zaque]

Originally Posted by normaldude8825

I wish to confirm I am interpreting the following rule correctly:
LITTER Scored in/on RECYCLING CONTAINER 6 per RECYCLING CONTAINER

I am understanding that we are allowed to have various Recycling Containers one next to another and have one piece of Litter lying on top of these Recycling Containers instead of inserting one Litter per Recycling Container.

The rule says the litter must be "fully supported" by a scored recycling container. If the litter is on more than one recycling container, it is not fully supported by any one container, and thus not worth any points.

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

You may score the litter on, not in the recycling container. The weight of the litter must be supported by a scored container.

It sounds to me like you are trying to say that a litter in a recycling container is not fully supported by the container, and thus not scored. If this is what you meant to say, could you please point out that rule? If that is not what you meant, could you please clarify?

[Squillo]

If your robot is in the auto zone and is holding a yellow tote, such that the tote is within the boundaries of the auto zone (extended vertically) but not touching the carpet (supported by the robot) at the end of autonomous, does the tote count toward a tote set ( if two other totes are in the auto zone, do you get 6 points)?

[Christopher149]

Originally Posted by Squillo

If your robot is in the auto zone and is holding a yellow tote, such that the tote is within the boundaries of the auto zone (extended vertically) but not touching the carpet (supported by the robot) at the end of autonomous, does the tote count toward a tote set ( if two other totes are in the auto zone, do you get 6 points)?

I want to say yes. The definition of STACKED TOTE SET requires it be touching the ground and not a robot. A TOTE SET is where "all three (3) Yellow TOTES from an ALLIANCE are fully contained by the AUTO ZONE, but do not meet the requirements of a STACKED TOTE SET, at the end of AUTO" (emphasis mine).