2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

[Skyehawk]

Yeah, I was just looking for a loophole that the robot could score the litter on the opponents side of the field. But the rules have that option pretty well sewn up. The only way ti get your litter onto the opponent's side is via human player throwing, or a tower unintentionally falling over and introducing a piece of litter (not entirely sure about the second one).

[hGil]

Originally Posted by p00rleno

Quick little scoring mockup for anybody to use in their brainstorming sessions, correct as far as my understanding of the rules goes (Feel free to correct me if it's wrong)

Thanks for the image. Just checking, is there a limit on the height of a tote stack? Depending on how you build your robot it would be possible to stack above the 6th tote, though in any case placing a recycling bin above would be far more effective.

[p00rleno]

Yes, any above the 6th dont count. WIll edit in rule in a minute

3.1.2.3 TELEOP
During TELEOP, points are awarded for scored TOTES, RECYCLING CONTAINERS, and LITTER.
TOTES
A Gray TOTE is scored if it is fully supported by a SCORING PLATFORM and no portion of the TOTE extends above the top of the
BACKSTOP.

7th will be above BACKSTOP

[KevinG]

Okay, so theoretical max scoring.

THEORETICAL MAXIMUM COMPETITIVE SCORE
Autonomous
Robot Set: 4
Tote Set: 6
Container Set: 8
Stacked Tote Set: 20

Total: 38 Points (Assuming Tote/Container/Stacked Tote can be simultaneously earned)

Teleoperated
60 Gray Totes: 120
7 Recycling Bins Level 6: 168
7 Litter in Bins: 42
13 Unprocessed Litter: 52
Coopertition Stack: 40

Total: 422

Combined Total: 460

THEORETICAL LET'S BE NICE EVERYBODY SHARES SCORE
Autonomous
Robot Set: 4
Tote Set: 6
Container Set: 8
Stacked Tote Set: 20

Total: 38 Points (Assuming Tote/Container/Stacked Tote can be simultaneously earned)

Teleoperated
54 Gray Totes: 108
5 Recycling Bins Level 6: 120
5 Litter in Bins: 30
5 Unprocessed Litter: 20
Coopertition Stack: 40

Total: 318

Combined Total: 356

[forbes]

Originally Posted by KGenson

Autonomous
Robot Set: 4
Tote Set: 6
Container Set: 8
Stacked Tote Set: 20

Total: 38 Points (Assuming Tote/Container/Stacked Tote can be simultaneously earned)

Originally Posted by 3.1.2.1

A TOTE SET exists if all three (3) Yellow TOTES from an ALLIANCE are fully contained by the AUTO ZONE, but do not meet the
requirements of a STACKED TOTE SET, at the end of AUTO.

So the max auto would be 32, I believe.

[magnets]

Originally Posted by forbes

So the max auto would be 32, I believe.

But, can you get two container sets in auto? (one from center, one from ones on your side)...

[forbes]

Originally Posted by magnets

But, can you get two container sets in auto? (one from center, one from ones on your side)...

Originally Posted by 3.1.2.1

A CONTAINER SET exists if any three (3) RECYCLING CONTAINERS are fully contained by the AUTO ZONE at the end of AUTO.

I interpret that as it only being possible for an alliance to get a single container set.

[Vanderlavanski]

Originally Posted by KGenson

Okay, so theoretical max scoring.

THEORETICAL MAXIMUM COMPETITIVE SCORE
Autonomous
Robot Set: 4
Tote Set: 6
Container Set: 8
Stacked Tote Set: 20

Total: 38 Points (Assuming Tote/Container/Stacked Tote can be simultaneously earned)

Teleoperated
60 Gray Totes: 120
7 Recycling Bins Level 6: 168
7 Litter in Bins: 42
13 Unprocessed Litter: 52
Coopertition Stack: 40

Total: 422

Combined Total: 460

I do not believe you can score both a tote set and a stacked tote set. The requirements for the tote set include not meeting the requirement for the stacked tote set (3.1.2.1 under TOTE SET definition).

Also, I think you can get 70 grey tubs: 30 + 28 + 12
This raises the theoretical max to 32 + 140 + 168 + 42 + 52 + 40, or 474.

Edit: The tote set definition was already pointed out.

[RockerRobot]

Originally Posted by 216Robochick288

Im trying to figure out the wording on the auton. Can you move the grey bins in auton? I havnt found a rule about it, I dont think it was mentioned. Does the 20 stacked bin mean if you had 3 on the scoring spot, 2 stacked one not you would have 2x20 plus 1x6?


EDIT: Im looking but havnt found anything about it yet

You can't move the gray totes in Auton, only the yellow totes and trash cans

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by RockerRobot

You can't move the gray totes in Auton, only the yellow totes and trash cans

Where is that in the rules?

I know you don't get points until the end of the match, but what prevents you from moving them.

[KevinG]

Math is hard guys.

THEORETICAL MAXIMUM TOTALLY FIXED COMPETITIVE SCORE
Autonomous
Robot Set: 4
Container Set: 8
Stacked Tote Set: 20

Total: 32 Points

Teleoperated
70 Gray Totes: 140
7 Recycling Bins Level 6: 168
7 Litter in Bins: 42
13 Unprocessed Litter: 52
Coopertition Stack: 40

Total: 442

Combined Total: 474

THEORETICAL LET'S BE NICE EVERYBODY SHARES TOTALLY FIXED SCORE
Autonomous
Robot Set: 4
Container Set: 8
Stacked Tote Set: 20

Total: 32 Points

Teleoperated
64 Gray Totes: 128
5 Recycling Bins Level 6: 120
5 Litter in Bins: 30
5 Unprocessed Litter: 20
Coopertition Stack: 40

Total: 338

Combined Total: 370

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by KGenson

Math is hard guys.

THEORETICAL MAXIMUM TOTALLY FIXED COMPETITIVE SCORE
Autonomous
Robot Set: 4
Container Set: 8
Stacked Tote Set: 20

Total: 32 Points

Teleoperated
70 Gray Totes: 140
7 Recycling Bins Level 6: 168
7 Litter in Bins: 42
13 Unprocessed Litter: 52
Coopertition Stack: 40

Total: 442

Combined Total: 474

THEORETICAL LET'S BE NICE EVERYBODY SHARES TOTALLY FIXED SCORE
Autonomous
Robot Set: 4
Container Set: 8
Stacked Tote Set: 20

Total: 32 Points

Teleoperated
56 Gray Totes: 112
5 Recycling Bins Level 6: 120
5 Litter in Bins: 30
5 Unprocessed Litter: 20
Coopertition Stack: 40

Total: 322

Combined Total: 354

I think you lost two gray totes somewhere.

*I'm waiting for someone to forget the second t in totes so we start talking about yellow or gray toes.

[KevinG]

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

I think you lost two gray totes somewhere.

*I'm waiting for someone to forget the second t in totes so we start talking about yellow or gray toes.

12 totes on the step, 28 totes in landfill, 30 totes in the alliance station. I don't have Excel open so no promises over here, but I believe 12+28+30 = 70.

64 totes on the "everybody wins" number so I'll fix that.

[jajabinx124]

Originally Posted by RockerRobot

You can't move the gray totes in Auton, only the yellow totes and trash cans

Nothing in the rule book says you can't move gray totes in Auto, you can if you want to get started on stacking earlier(Correct me if I am wrong). I don't see a point in moving grey totes in auto, but you have the freedom to get started on stacking/placing early if you want to. The gray totes,if moved in auto and placed onto scoring zone in auto, will not be scored in Auto and if you do get them on the scoring zone in auto they will be scored in Teleop.

[Tungrus]

the game animation shows robot moving grey tote in auton.