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Re: Recycle bin score

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Will the green recycle bins be scored if they are placed above level 6?
Anything above level 6 will have the same points as if they were at level 6
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Re: Recycle bin score

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Anything above level 6 will have the same points as if they were at level 6
Levels have no bearing.

Any tote that is sticking above the 6'6" top of the Backstop will be worth zero points. 3.1.2.3, first paragraph.
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Re: Recycle bin score

Since under 3.1.2.3, totes can't be higher than the backstop, the bottom of the bin cannot possibly be above level 6. However, it would only be logical to mark a level 6 if and only if the bin can be scored at that level (since levels only apply to the bin), but this requires the top of the bin to be above the top of the backstop. So therefore, we should be able to legally stack 5 totes and a bin, but I would Q/A it to be completely sure.
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Re: Recycle bin score

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Levels have no bearing.

Any tote that is sticking above the 6'6" top of the Backstop will be worth zero points. 3.1.2.3, first paragraph.
For the TOTE scoring, you are correct, for the RECYCLING CONTAINER scoring you are not.

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RECYCLING CONTAINERS
A RECYCLING CONTAINER is scored if it is fully supported by only scored Gray TOTES. Points for a scored RECYCLING
CONTAINER are awarded based on the lowest LEVEL in which any portion of the RECYCLING CONTAINER resides. In Figure 3-4,
colors have been added to indicate the LEVELS on the BACKSTOP. In both examples (A and B), the lowest part of the RECYCLING
CONTAINER is in LEVEL 3.
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LEVEL – an indicator used to measure how high a scored RECYCLING CONTAINER was placed by a ROBOT.
Note that level is different from score.
TOTE scoring stops at the backstop height, but level is not explicitly capped.

I expect this to be changed in the 1st update.
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Re: Recycle bin score

The question is since a 7th tote is not a "scored tote" - is the container on top of it fully supported only by scored totes? (The condition for the container to be scored.) I don't believe it is, but I don't make that decision - Q&A does.
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Re: Recycle bin score

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Note that level is different from score.
TOTE scoring stops at the backstop height, but level is not explicitly capped.

I expect this to be changed in the 1st update.
By definition, emphasis mine,
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Originally Posted by Section 2.1.3 Scoring Platforms
[Backstop] is 6 ft. 6 in. tall and 1 ft. 5 in. wide. It is
painted black and has graduations (indicated by White gaffers tape). The lowest graduating is such that the top edge of the tape is 9.375
in. from the top surface of the SCORING PLATFORM and then spaced every 11.875 in. The graduations are to help Teams and FIELD
staff determine the correct LEVEL for each RECYCLING CONTAINER scored.
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Points for a scored RECYCLING
CONTAINER are awarded based on the lowest LEVEL in which any portion of the RECYCLING CONTAINER resides.
From there, it seems to be clear that only the 6 levels defined by the Backstop are the only 6 levels that can be achieved. Thus, a "full stack" is simply 6 totes, 1 recycling container, and a piece of litter, for a grand total of 42 points.
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Re: Recycle bin score

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For the TOTE scoring, you are correct, for the RECYCLING CONTAINER scoring you are not.
Minor nitpick: You will, in future, notice that I made NO MENTION of ANY Recycling Container, scored or otherwise.

What I was responding to was a post saying "anything above a Level 6 will have the same points as a Level 6". This is patently false for Totes AND Containers, because Totes aren't scored by Level (and any Tote above a Level 6 is either 0 or -6 points depending how it gets up there--reference 3.1.2.3 for the former case, and G22 for the latter). Containers have nothing above Level 6, because Level 6 just extends upwards to infinity if that drawing is correct, so it is impossible for them to get up above Level 6.
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