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Human Player handling of totes and litter

An alliance's two human players are in the human player stations. Can they move from the human player station once they enter it? Does the third human player shuttle totes and litter to the other two human players? Can a human player move more than one tote or litter at the same time (i.e. could I grab all 10 litter at the same time and carry to the human player station)?
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Re: Human Player handling of totes and litter

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An alliance's two human players are in the human player stations. Can they move from the human player station once they enter it? Does the third human player shuttle totes and litter to the other two human players? Can a human player move more than one tote or litter at the same time (i.e. could I grab all 10 litter at the same time and carry to the human player station)?
i do belive you can leave your station because the rules allow for the human player to become driver half way through a match, you can jus switch drivers at any time
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Re: Human Player handling of totes and litter

You can seriously just switch drivers?

Which rule...? LOL
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Re: Human Player handling of totes and litter

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You can seriously just switch drivers?

Which rule...? LOL
The closest one I could find talking about this is G32.

G32 During a MATCH, the ROBOT shall be operated solely by the DRIVERS and/or HUMAN PLAYERS of that Team.

The and part may mean that the Human Player could take control of the robot. I don't see any use for it though.
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Re: Human Player handling of totes and litter

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The closest one I could find talking about this is G32.

G32 During a MATCH, the ROBOT shall be operated solely by the DRIVERS and/or HUMAN PLAYERS of that Team.

The and part may mean that the Human Player could take control of the robot. I don't see any use for it though.
Maybe for Kinect control? I am just guessing.. But I think FIRST wants to leave opportunities open and see where teams take them.
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Re: Human Player handling of totes and litter

We can use more controllers this year, so that might have something to do with it.
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Maybe for Kinect control? I am just guessing.. But I think FIRST wants to leave opportunities open and see where teams take them.
Actually in the rules it says no more kinect or webcam control. It's rule G21
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Re: Human Player handling of totes and litter

I believe the no kinect/webcam was just for auto to prevent the innovative ways people have gotten around the auto rules in the past.
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Re: Human Player handling of totes and litter

Yeah I just wasn't sure if we were talking whole match or auto.
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Re: Human Player handling of totes and litter

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I believe the no kinect/webcam was just for auto to prevent the innovative ways people have gotten around the auto rules in the past.
True. G21 states:
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FIRST salutes the creative and innovative ways in which Teams have interacted with their ROBOTS during AUTO in previous seasons, making the AUTO period more of a hybrid period due to indirect interaction with the OPERATOR CONSOLE. The RECYCLE RUSH AUTO Period, however, is meant to be truly autonomous and ROBOT or OPERATOR CONSOLE interaction (such as through webcam or KinectTM) are prohibited.
However, R46 prohibits human players using IR remotes to control robots, similar to 2008.
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Does the third human player shuttle totes and litter to the other two human players?
Just remember, as per G5, "only one Alliance member may be in each Human Player Zone at a time."
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True. G21 states:

However, R46 prohibits human players using IR remotes to control robots, similar to 2008.
Why did you bring up IR remotes?
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Why did you bring up IR remotes?
Because that was a legal way for human players to communicate with robots during the Hybrid Period of the 2008 game, FIRST Overdrive. It is not, however, legal this year.
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Why did you bring up IR remotes?
It was the first thing that came to mind for an example, since they were legal in '08. I could have said R/C car remote, as well - same idea.
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Actually in the rules it says no more kinect or webcam control. It's rule G21
That's an Auton rule
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