Long conveyer to move boxes

[lark95]

So i have a very weird question. What if you were to build a robot that was just a long conveyer from the box feeding station right to the nearest scoring zone? Even if it only stacked 2 totes high another robot could finish he stacks. Even given the two main concerns that I see, wight and the transportation perimeter, is this even a legal to do something like this?

[Grim Tuesday]

As long as you can build the robot to fit within transport configuration and under 120 lbs there are no limits on robot size (there is a vertical limit as Jacob said below and I forgot to mention) during the match. Be careful if you totally rely on other people will be able to increase stack size, though.

[Jacob Bendicksen]

Simon said it. As long as you're under 120lbs, under 78 inches, and fit inside the transport configuration, go for it. We'll have to be careful when brainstorming this year not to confine ourselves with past rules that no longer apply - this is the first time in a while that something like this has been theoretically legal.

[Grim Tuesday]

There is also an interesting opportunity to detach and play with two robots, as long as they are linked together (including power), or take up large swathes of the field sweeping things around. The robot rules are really interesting this year.

[JesseK]

Very nifty concept, like 469-ish nifty. Folding out two 6' conveyors out from a 3' conveyor to get 15' of conveyor - that'd go a pretty good ways across the closer white platform while staying out of the way of the other robots. Add any kind of height adjustment to it and it's a solid idea.

[electronicsdude]

My worry is that of the mobility of other robots with a robot that large on the field. The second some of the gray totes are disturbed the field could become a mess.

[Harman341]

It's perfectly legal. The problem is you would be great at transporting crates to one spot.

[AndyBare]

Originally Posted by Harman341

It's perfectly legal. The problem is you would be great at transporting crates to one spot.

Unless you support your conveyor system (built in sections) on mechs or something, and slide them around, kind of like a sidewinder.

[grainne]

i mean you could also make a giant wall going across and put it right up next to the drivers station in the beginning and just drive forward in auto and therefore push all the yellow totes and those containers into the auto zone.

[Grim Tuesday]

Originally Posted by grainne

i mean you could also make a giant wall going across and put it right up next to the drivers station in the beginning and just drive forward in auto and therefore push all the yellow totes and those containers into the auto zone.

I think there's a good argument to be made that 18 pts every time, if executed correctly, would be a very valuable autonomous to have.

[seamushroom]

Originally Posted by lark95

So i have a very weird question. What if you were to build a robot that was just a long conveyer from the box feeding station right to the nearest scoring zone? Even if it only stacked 2 totes high another robot could finish he stacks. Even given the two main concerns that I see, wight and the transportation perimeter, is this even a legal to do something like this?

Actually, is it?
in the rule book it says
"4.2 General ROBOT Design
R2
A Team must submit their ROBOT for Inspection. The ROBOT must be built by the FRC Team to perform specific tasks when competing in RECYCLE RUSH. The ROBOT must include all of the basic systems required to be an active participant in the game – power, communications, control, and movement. The ROBOT implementation must obviously follow a design approach intended to play RECYCLE RUSHSM (e.g. a box of unassembled parts placed on the FIELD, or a ROBOT designed to play a different game does not satisfy this definition)."

How do we define movement? moving parts o the robot or the ability to move the robot with wheels etc.?

[Daniel_LaFleur]

Originally Posted by seamushroom

Actually, is it?
in the rule book it says
"4.2 General ROBOT Design
R2
A Team must submit their ROBOT for Inspection. The ROBOT must be built by the FRC Team to perform specific tasks when competing in RECYCLE RUSH. The ROBOT must include all of the basic systems required to be an active participant in the game – power, communications, control, and movement. The ROBOT implementation must obviously follow a design approach intended to play RECYCLE RUSHSM (e.g. a box of unassembled parts placed on the FIELD, or a ROBOT designed to play a different game does not satisfy this definition)."

How do we define movement? moving parts o the robot or the ability to move the robot with wheels etc.?

I very much doubt any referee (or inspector) would say that this type of robot would not be an "active participant" in the game. I would also Q&A this specific rule to see if motion of the entire robot (not just appendages) is required.

[BethMo]

Some of the Ultimate Ascent robots had no wheels -- they started out under the pyramid and just climbed.

[Canon reeves]

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday

I think there's a good argument to be made that 18 pts every time, if executed correctly, would be a very valuable autonomous to have.

This would be pretty cool, and you don't even need to have a conveyer, if you had a bar that folded once and pivoted at the frame you could just drive forward with everything? it would be consistent, and pretty easy.

[mrnoble]

I'm looking forward to the crane robot. Im sure it will happen multiple times, and that some of them will succeed.