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Re: roboRIO Imaging Tool

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There is two different installers, both found here.

The "NI Software for 2015" is the same as the install dvd. It contains LabView and is only required for LabView teams.

The "FRC 2015 Update Suite" is only available online. Every team is required to install this for the RoboRIO imaging tool, Radio imaging tool, and Driver Station.
but... no.. the update suite doesn't contain the roboRIO imaging tool... atleast thats what I downloaded. Same with our classmate, it has the driver station and sd but no imaging tools

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but... no.. the update suite doesn't contain the roboRIO imaging tool... atleast thats what I downloaded. Same with our classmate, it has the driver station and sd but no imaging tools
It does have it. Check "Program Files (x86)" instead of "Program Files". Confused me at first too.
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Re: roboRIO Imaging Tool

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It does have it. Check "Program Files (x86)" instead of "Program Files". Confused me at first too.
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C:\Users\Arhowk>cd C:\Program Files (x86)\National Instruments\LabView 2014\
The system cannot find the path specified.

C:\Users\Arhowk>cd C:\Program Files (x86)\National Instruments\LabView 2013\

C:\Program Files (x86)\National Instruments\LabVIEW 2013>
... I hope I'm not crazy.

(for anyone skimming to the last post not reading the above posts, the only thing inside of the LabView 2013 folder is a .ini file)

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Re: roboRIO Imaging Tool

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C:\Users\Arhowk>cd C:\Program Files (x86)\National Instruments\LabView 2014\
The system cannot find the path specified.

C:\Users\Arhowk>cd C:\Program Files (x86)\National Instruments\LabView 2013\

C:\Program Files (x86)\National Instruments\LabVIEW 2013>
... I hope I'm not crazy.

(for anyone skimming to the last post not reading the above posts, the only thing inside of the LabView 2013 folder is a .ini file)
Interesting. It is present on my computer, and I only installed the update. Windows 7 x64. Also worked on Windows 8.1 x64. Did you uninstall the prior LabVIEW/driver station stuff?
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Re: roboRIO Imaging Tool

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Interesting. It is present on my computer, and I only installed the update. Windows 7 x64. Also worked on Windows 8.1 x64. Did you uninstall the prior LabVIEW/driver station stuff?
I did, as per the screensteps documentation. (lord i had over 500 items in that box, took over an hour)

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Re: roboRIO Imaging Tool

Oh, I installed the LabVIEW update from the NI update thing. However, I did not install the actual LabVIEW DVD.
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Re: roboRIO Imaging Tool

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Oh, I installed the LabVIEW update from the NI update thing. However, I did not install the actual LabVIEW DVD.
I thought so, you installed the labview update.

So, yes, the FRC 2015 Update Suite does NOT contain the tools necessary to flash the roboRIO and router, contrary to it's specification, unless someone is 100% positive that they used the update suite (the one on the right) and recieved these tools.
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I thought so, you installed the labview update.

So, yes, the FRC 2015 Update Suite does NOT contain the tools necessary to flash the roboRIO and router, contrary to it's specification, unless someone is 100% positive that they used the update suite (the one on the right) and recieved these tools.
I think you're right that the docs are wrong. However, I definitely used the update suite and NOT the full LabVIEW install. You can install the LabVIEW update, even if you don't have LabVIEW installed.
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Re: roboRIO Imaging Tool

Let me see if I understand. You downloaded the FRC 2015 Update Suite from http://www.ni.com/download/first-rob...-2015/5112/en/. Then, during installation when the product list was displayed, you deselected LabVIEW update.
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Re: roboRIO Imaging Tool

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Let me see if I understand. You downloaded the FRC 2015 Update Suite from http://www.ni.com/download/first-rob...-2015/5112/en/. Then, during installation when the product list was displayed, you deselected LabVIEW update.
Me? No. I installed the entirety of the update suite, I didn't uncheck the LabVIEW update. I did not install, download, nor obtain the CD for the LabView update.

Right now, I don't have access to the cd and I don't have the 4gb download (nor the time) so I'll check the cd installation tomorrow for the tools. If they are on there, than the update suite is definitely lacking the assets. I'm 100% sure that I have the entirety of the update suite downloaded and installed on my computer.

E/ I just ran the update suite again. All 4 aspects of the suite got skipped as they were already installed. National Instruments folder still does not contain a LabView 2014 folder.

2E/ I can also confirm this tomorrow using our development station, which I have not yet updated with the 2015 tools.

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Re: roboRIO Imaging Tool

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Me? No. I installed the entirety of the update suite, I didn't uncheck the LabVIEW update. I did not install, download, nor obtain the CD for the LabView update.

Right now, I don't have access to the cd and I don't have the 4gb download (nor the time) so I'll check the cd installation tomorrow for the tools. If they are on there, than the update suite is definitely lacking the assets. I'm 100% sure that I have the entirety of the update suite downloaded and installed on my computer.
I just helped a half dozen teams get running with C++. Not a single one installed anything from a DVD or the 4gb LabVIEW download. They all installed the Update Suite and all had the imaging tool.

There's something happening with your configuration.
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Re: roboRIO Imaging Tool

I'm fairly certain theres some glitch with the installer. Heres what I just did

1) Programs and features -> Uninstall a program -> National Instruments Software
2) Uninstalled everything listed
3) Checked the rest of the programs for anything ni-related, labview-related, or frc-related (nothing)
4) Restarted my computer
5) Ran the LabView Update for 2015

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No software will be installed or removed.
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Re: roboRIO Imaging Tool

I'm fairly certain theres some glitch with the installer. Heres what I just did

1) Programs and features -> Uninstall a program -> National Instruments Software
2) Uninstalled everything listed
3) Checked the rest of the programs for anything ni-related, labview-related, or frc-related (nothing)
4) Restarted my computer
5) Ran the LabView Update for 2015

and it gave me this message
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Installation Summary
No software will be installed or removed.
note that the other 3 components (driver station, gamepad, and utilities) gave me the same error before the above process but install normally after the process. Is it possible my LabView installation got corrupted when I initially tried to uninstall it?
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Re: roboRIO Imaging Tool

Im going on a limb here, but when you ran the NI Update Installer, did you try installing directly from the .zip file or did you click Extract All Files? The update .zip is technically password protected, but for some reason Windows will open it to view files without having to enter the password. When you click Extract All, it will ask for the password that can be found on the same page as the updates. It seems to me like the setup is only running the main application and not running the payload installers.
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Re: roboRIO Imaging Tool

Don't remember but installing the lab view package first allowed th update to Install properly. Silly.
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