General question about average times

[Jacob Bendicksen]

I'd agree that 45 seconds to a minute sounds about right for making a stack, getting closer to 80 seconds for a totally complete stack (6 totes + recycling bin + pool noodle).

In terms of average score (and I'm completely spitballing here), I'd expect a decent alliance in quals to get 10 in auto (4 for robot set + 3 totes in the auto zone), another 18 with 3 stacks of 3 totes each, 20 for the coopertition set, and maybe 7 pieces of litter in the landfill, giving a total of 55 points. So yeah, fifty points would be pretty significant.

[Christopher149]

Originally Posted by Jacob Bendicksen

I'd agree that 45 seconds to a minute sounds about right for making a stack, getting closer to 80 seconds for a totally complete stack (6 totes + recycling bin + pool noodle).

In terms of average score (and I'm completely spitballing here), I'd expect a decent alliance in quals to get 10 in auto (4 for robot set + 3 totes in the auto zone), another 18 with 3 stacks of 3 totes each, 20 for the coopertition set, and maybe 7 pieces of litter in the landfill, giving a total of 55 points. So yeah, fifty points would be pretty significant.

55 points. Makes the Noodle Agreement / Noodle Dilemma's 40 points look attractive.

Edit: ninja'd

[Jacob Bendicksen]

Originally Posted by Christopher149

55 points. Makes the Noodle Agreement / Noodle Dilemma's 40 points look attractive.

True...I can see TNA swinging a lot of matches if FIRST doesn't push an update.

[MrJohnston]

1) The time to make a stack will very much depend on the conditions.

Ideal: (i.e. You've grabbed the nearest bin and are now sitting in the feeder station. You have an intake system that orients to tote correctly as it comes down and immediately stacks it inside the robot. Once you have six totes you turn and place it in the closest scoring zone.) I can see this being done in under 30 seconds.

Not so ideal: (You are wading into the landfill, gathering a center bin and picking up totes from the ground - of course they are all oriented awkwardly. You then have to turn the robot and go to the second closest scoring zone as your ally has already stacked something nearby). I could see this, even with a great robot taking over a minute..

2) Max Points: Every year there are tasks in this competition that seem "impossible." Yet, every year a handful of teams not only accomplish the impossible, but do it well and very, very quickly. There will be robots that create 36 point stacks - perhaps two - each match. There will be alliances that score over 30 points in autonomous. Coopertition points will be more common than not. Stacked coopertion totes will be very common at high level events. Perhaps not in the district preliminary matches, but in the bracketed play and at regional events, scores over 100 will be common.

The way I see it, if we want to reach Einstein, our robot must, individually, be able to put up over 70 points - not including coopertition. I am a hoping we can approach 100. Of course, that's going to be difficult and, no, we haven't figured it out -yet. Then again, that's what makes this fun.