The Noodle Agreement

[CalTran]

Originally Posted by Kevin Selavko

I think that the best available options are to:

1. Give teams 30 points if they have no unprocessed litter on their side of the field

(5. will give teams the points of the noodle agreement if they have all ten of their noodles in the landfill zone)

Personally I think 5 is the best option.

Unprocessed Litter is worth +4 each, or 40 points.

[Kevin Selavko]

Originally Posted by CalTran

Unprocessed Litter is worth +4 each, or 40 points.

30 points for no unprocessed litter, 10(1) for all your noodles in the landfill zone is a total of 40.

The 30 points gives teams an incentive to still put in the litter to get more points(1 in landfill and 4 for getting it to the other side) and also it is a large incentive to clean up your side of the field in the last 20 seconds(no more encouraging littering on your own side).

[tindleroot]

Originally Posted by Kevin Selavko

30 points for no unprocessed litter, 10(1) for all your noodles in the landfill zone is a total of 40.

The 30 points gives teams an incentive to still put in the litter to get more points(1 in landfill and 4 for getting it to the other side) and also it is a large incentive to clean up your side of the field in the last 20 seconds(no more encouraging littering on your own side).

But most teams would then be driven to completely bypass litter the whole match in order to get 30 free points and not worry about dropping litter. This would essentially remove litter from the game (I guess that's good for the recycling theme, but not for the gameplay).

[Kevin Selavko]

It is already removed from the game as it was intended intended, and launching the noodles across the field would give you the possibility of 4 points instead of 1.

[Kevin Selavko]

Or to really mess with teams they could put noodles by the starting cans and totes.

[MrJohnston]

I really don't like the noodle agreement. If the rules are not changed with an update, my team will participate - those noodle points will really weigh heavily into scores in preliminary rounds. Good robots that do not participate in the agreement will be eliminated. Frankly, I really don't like this.

I would really like to see the rule changed: unprocessed litter on my side would cause my team a four point penalty.

[Ceering]

Originally Posted by MrJohnston

I really don't like the noodle agreement. If the rules are not changed with an update, my team will participate - those noodle points will really weigh heavily into scores in preliminary rounds. Good robots that do not participate in the agreement will be eliminated. Frankly, I really don't like this.

I would really like to see the rule changed: unprocessed litter on my side would cause my team a four point penalty.

I agree that would be much better, however, I think a 2 point penalty would be a bit more reasonable.

[jtrv]

fun game when both teams can just throw stuff on the ground and wait, then get +40 each...

[The_ShamWOW88]

Frank just posted a Team Update regarding this...

[Madison]

Originally Posted by The_ShamWOW88

Frank just posted a Team Update regarding this...

Link?

[dellagd]

Originally Posted by Madison

Link?

The team updates (web viewer) does have something listed under today's date on the table of contents. I cant see the info though.

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...ated-documents

[ScottOliveira]

Originally Posted by dellagd

The team updates (web viewer) does have something listed under today's date on the table of contents. I cant see the info though.

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...ated-documents

For the web viewer you have to use the down arrows to get to another page, simply scrolling won't work (a poor design in my opinion).

[ScottOliveira]

Originally Posted by Madison

Link?

http://contentviewer.adobe.com/s/FIR...02.html#page_1

Only seems to be up on the web viewer, not the pdf.

[The_ShamWOW88]

Originally Posted by Madison

Link?

This should work.

They haven't updated the rule yet but they're working on a rule change.

http://contentviewer.adobe.com/s/FIR...02.html#page_0

[Jon Stratis]

It looks like it hasn't posted to the website yet, but it came up in my iPhone app a few minutes ago.

It's a long note about colluding in noodles, how the GDC considered it but thought it would happen very much, how they wanted to keep the rules simple, how they see it as detrimental, and ending with a note that it is something they will be addressing in a future update.

Screenshot attached, not sure how readable it will be.